Why is it so hard for the Democratic Party to take accountability?

[Ozymandeas]

Moderates stick with moderates. Moderates chose Hillary and Biden to have next.

Released Emails Suggest the D.N.C. Derided the Sanders Campaign (Published 2016)

Some of the nearly 20,000 messages, made public through WikiLeaks, show officials at the Democratic National Committee thought little of Mr. Sanders’ chances of becoming president.

www.nytimes.com

Elizabeth Warren agrees Democratic race 'rigged' for Clinton

Elizabeth Warren, who was a top Clinton supporter, says the contest against Bernie Sanders was unfair.

www.bbc.com

‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum (Published 2019)

Members of the party establishment who oppose Bernie Sanders have had discussions about how to handle his candidacy, while others warn of a schism within the party.

www.nytimes.com

Democrats Now Openly Admit They Pushed Biden to Block Bernie

There are some other things transpiring in American politics right now. But we must note that Democratic leaders are now unabashedly stating what Bernie Sanders supporters said over and over in 2020: the party pushed Joe Biden primarily to stop Bernie.

jacobin.com

You not answering my question. Why didn't Bernie get a single Black senator or a single Black representative to "stick with him"?

Congressional Black Democrats Unload on Bernie Sanders

All four black Texas congressional Democrats went to bat in a big way Thursday for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton amid her increasingly hostile nomination fight with U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont.

www.texastribune.org

“Hillary Clinton has made friends with the black community long before needing them now,” said Green, according to the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call.

Jackson Lee also spoke, aiming to distance CBC members from the “establishment” label. All four members looked on as U.S. Rep. John Lewis of Georgia — a venerated Civil Rights hero — tore into Sanders.

Veasey followed up late in the day with a written statement, calling Sanders “wrong on the issue of health care,” and asserting that Sanders would push back progress on the Affordable Care Act.

"We must not turn back from the progress made by the Obama administration," the statement read.

They all saw Bernie for a phony. Including John Lewis. How you been a politician since the 1980s but you have nobody in your corner? Make it make sense.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

You not answering my question. Why didn't Bernie get a single Black senator or representative to "stick with him"?

I did. Moderates Dems followed their marching orders to get behind Hillary and Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/23/sanders-democratic-establishment-panic-mode-117065

 

[NYC Rebel]

I did. Moderates Dems followed their marching orders to get behind Hillary and Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025

Democrats are always expected to get 100% purity test scores. that comes with attempting to position yourself as a big tent party that is inclusive of everyone. Republicans are expected to cheat so them having a 25% score is fine because folks won’t grade it.

This thread is a example of that. And they are doing the absolute worst, but only one side gets graded.

 

[Ozymandeas]

I did. Moderates Dems followed their marching orders to get behind Hillary and Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025

I read two of those articles and it's the same vague nonsense Bernie bros have always tried to spin. Nothing substantial.

The DNC didn't like Bernie. Biden made more inroads with the Democrats because he's not a giant dikk to everyone.

That's not a crime. That's on Bernie for being a dummy.

The DNC did not force people to vote for Hilary or Biden in the Primaries. The people chose.

Trump was an outsider. MUCH MORE SO than Bernie was. And he made the Republicans lie down because cacs voted for him in the primaries.

That's Bernie's fault for not having momentum like Trump.

Also, Barack was an outsider. The DNC wanted Hilary. But Barack similarly made Democrats lie down because voters picked him heavily in the primaries.

If Bernie steamrolled Biden/Hilary and had 60, 70, 80% of the votes in every state, he would've been the pick. He didn't. Stop crying. Nobody cares.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Believe politicians will do what individual voters asked for, and not bend the knee to banks and corporations, and jews bruhs

 

[Big Boda]

Didn't read im just here to farm for democrat shills to block

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Democrats are always expected to get 100% purity test scores. that comes with attempting to position yourself as a big tent party that is inclusive of everyone. Republicans are expected to cheat so them having a 25% score is fine because folks won’t grade it.

This thread is a example of that. And they are doing the absolute worst, but only one side gets graded.

People wanting 100% purity for candidates are the vocal minority, I think. The fact of the matter is the moderate Democrats are more concerned with reaching conservative voters that are upset with Trump than catering to their base without the hollow identity politics. You can't please everyone but if they focused on economic change then that is something that can reach everyone

 

[Ozymandeas]

If you are talking 2020 I agree but 2016 was very close and went down to the wire even tho Clinton's were running the DNC financially at the time. It wasn't a fair primary they wanted Clinton before it even started. It's well documented.

I'm not understanding what this means. Either Americans pick you in the primary or they don't. Are you saying the DNC gave Hilary money? Are you saying the DNC gave Hilary more screentime? Are you saying Americans didn't know Bernie was running for President? Bernie didn't have the juice. Barack wasn't picked by the DNC either. They wanted Hilary in 2008. Why did Barack destroy all of that and become President? Why couldn't Bernie do the same? He wasn't that guy.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I read two of those articles and it's the same vague nonsense Bernie bros have always tried to spin. Nothing substantial.

The DNC didn't like Bernie. Biden made more inroads with the Democrats because he's not a giant dikk to everyone.

That's not a crime. That's on Bernie for being a dummy.

The DNC did not force people to vote for Hilary or Biden in the Primaries. The people chose.

Trump was an outsider. MUCH MORE SO than Bernie was. And he made the Republicans lie down because cacs voted for him in the primaries.

That's Bernie's fault for not having momentum like Trump.

Also, Barack was an outsider. The DNC wanted Hilary. But Barack similarly made Democrats lie down because voters picked him heavily in the primaries.

If Bernie steamrolled Biden/Hilary and had 60, 70, 80% of the votes in every state, he would've been the pick. He didn't. Stop crying. Nobody cares.

Nothing in those articles were vague lol they are all from reliable sources.

Obama was an outsider in that he was new but it was a Democrat. His DNC speech in 2004 put him on the map and Abner Mikva, his mentor, gave him the go ahead to run for president.

Trump was an outsider that the Republicans that was a joke but when they saw he was getting more attention than the rest they quickly got behind. For the rest of the Republican primary, conservative news outlets were all Trump.

For the Democrats, when they saw that Bernie was getting a lot of momentum with young people (the same demographic they desperately try to reach each election cycle), they did the exact opposite. CNN and MSNBC (as well as other House Dems) slandered Bernie and his supporters.
Just the fact you are saying Bernie Bros shows that your perception of Bernie was shaped by those news outlets.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Nothing in those articles were vague lol they are all from reliable sources.

Obama was an outsider in that he was new but it was a Democrat. His DNC speech in 2004 put him on the map and Abner Mikva, his mentor, gave him the go ahead to run for president.

Trump was an outsider that the Republicans that was a joke but when they saw he was getting more attention than the rest they quickly got behind. For the rest of the Republican primary, conservative news outlets were all Trump.

For the Democrats, when they saw that Bernie was getting a lot of momentum with young people (the same demographic they desperately try to reach each election cycle), they did the exact opposite. CNN and MSNBC (as well as other House Dems) slandered Bernie and his supporters.
Just the fact you are saying Bernie Bros shows that your perception of Bernie was shaped by those news outlets.

It’s very vague. You still can’t say even after multiple interactions with me what the Democrats did in plain english. Watch you still not say anything. What did they do?

The only difference between Obama/Trump and Bernie is that Obama/Trump were outsiders that were so popular they made their parties kiss the ring. They got the votes. Whereas Bernie was an outsider that didn’t.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Mexicans don't want to take accountability too

 

[ba'al]

I'm a bothsider

Leave Dems alone.

I get it shills are annoying but we don't have to keep kicking their back in.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

As if the outcomes of our elections are purely the result of rational, independent choices made by an informed populace.

Well that's your 1st and most fatal mistake. But populace is not informed. And to call the choice rational, is to say you don't understand what rational means.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Mexicans don't want to take accountability too

That brehette spoken nothing but the God's honest truth.

 

[Big Blue]

When Bernie was about to win the nomination and Dem leadership sabotaged it. Thanks for playing. lol

This nikka. Bernie was about to win? When??