Why is it so hard for the Democratic Party to take accountability?

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Make sure you also answer why dems allowed this to happen
 

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So instead of holding republicans accountable, lets blame dems.

got it.
:dead:Oh, so we the voters are supposed to ‘hold Republicans accountable’… by doing what exactly? Voting for a Democratic Party that ran on nothing but ‘Orange Man Bad’ and still lost? :deadrose:, how does that even make sense?The Democrats held the White House, controlled the Senate, outspent Trump by hundreds of millions, and STILL couldn’t stop him. They had every advantage and still fumbled the bag. But somehow, it’s on us to "hold Republicans accountable"? With what? Hope? A sternly worded tweet? Let me give you a newsflash If the Democrats were actually competent, we wouldn’t be in this position. They ran a weak, uninspiring campaign, refused to deliver meaningful change, and expected people to show up out of fear rather than excitement. That’s not on the voters, that’s on them.
 

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Yeah, and while you’re pointing at the obvious fascist doing a Nazi salute, the Democrats, who outspent the GOP by hundreds of millions, still couldn’t stop Trump. Maybe, just maybe, it’s worth talking about why the only other major party in this country is so bad at countering literal fascism. Nobody is ignoring how dangerous Trump and his movement are, but sitting around yelling ‘look at the Nazi!’ over and over isn’t a political strategy. If the Democratic Party was actually effective at fighting back, we wouldn’t be in this position. But nah, let’s just keep pretending that all criticism of Democrats = secret Trump support. That mindset clearly worked out great this election.
I can agree that the democrats aren't completely blameless and the absolutely need another game plan but how do you effectively fight the constant wave of misinformation? You mention the democrats outspending the GOP but what does that matter against the grip social media and influencers have?
 

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It’s almost like screaming "Shut up and vote blue!" at disillusioned voters isn’t a winning strategy. Who knew? Instead of actually addressing their failures, Dems and their die-hard defenders just plug their ears, blame third-party voters, and pretend ‘Orange Man Bad’ should’ve been enough. Then they act shocked when people either stay home or look elsewhere. But sure, keep insisting that any criticism = secret MAGA support, and watch how well that works out next time. Spoiler: It won’t.
 

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Make sure you also answer why dems allowed this to happen
Bro...your entire job is to offset all GOP acts with what about the Democrats whataboutisms.

We are about to see South African cacs flood into the U.S. and you would be the type who goes what about Dems as they are being given red carpet treatment here in the states.

Not interested. You're see through.
 

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:dead:Oh, so we the voters are supposed to ‘hold Republicans accountable’… by doing what exactly? Voting for a Democratic Party that ran on nothing but ‘Orange Man Bad’ and still lost? :deadrose:, how does that even make sense?The Democrats held the White House, controlled the Senate, outspent Trump by hundreds of millions, and STILL couldn’t stop him. They had every advantage and still fumbled the bag. But somehow, it’s on us to "hold Republicans accountable"? With what? Hope? A sternly worded tweet? Let me give you a newsflash If the Democrats were actually competent, we wouldn’t be in this position. They ran a weak, uninspiring campaign, refused to deliver meaningful change, and expected people to show up out of fear rather than excitement. That’s not on the voters, that’s on them.
Orange man bad = warning about the things trump planned to do.

Folks essentially were telling you "yo, don't go over there, you might get shot"

Well folks ignored the warning and went over there anyway.
 

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Bro...your entire job is to offset all GOP acts with what about the Democrats whataboutisms.

We are about to see South African cacs flood into the U.S. and you would be the type who goes what about Dems as they are being given red carpet treatment here in the states.

Not interested. You're see through.
:deadrose: imagine thinking holding the party that was supposed to stop this accountable is just ‘whataboutism.’ Sorry, but ‘Republicans bad’ isn’t the groundbreaking political analysis you thought it was, we all know they’re evil and corrupt, but guess what? The Democrats had every advantage and still let them cook. But nah, let’s ignore that and pretend criticism = secret MAGA support, because clearly, that strategy worked so well this election! Keep coping, keep deflecting, and keep blaming everyone but the people who fukked this layup of an election up
 

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:deadrose: imagine thinking holding the party that was supposed to stop this accountable is just ‘whataboutism.’ Sorry, but ‘Republicans bad’ isn’t the groundbreaking political analysis you thought it was, we all know they’re evil and corrupt, but guess what? The Democrats had every advantage and still let them cook. But nah, let’s ignore that and pretend criticism = secret MAGA support, because clearly, that strategy worked so well this election! Keep coping, keep deflecting, and keep blaming everyone but the people who fukked this layup of an election up
You're making the same assumptions about folks who voted dem.
 

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No one here said this. You create your own strawman to refute.
Oh, my fault, I forgot the official wording is "Not voting for Kamala is a vote for Trump" and "Third party voters are basically non-voters." Same condescending bullshyt, different wording. Nobody outright said ‘shut up and vote blue,’ but the message is clear: Any criticism of the Democrats gets you labeled as a secret Trump supporter, and any attempt to hold them accountable is dismissed as "helping the right." If you think that attitude had nothing to do with their loss than I got a bridge to sell you. But go ahead, keep blaming everyone except the party that actually lost.
 

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You're making the same assumptions about folks who voted dem.
What assumptions? :dead: I’m sure you just skipped to the last page like a typical Coli goer, but nope, I didn’t assume a damn thing. If you actually read the last four pages instead of speedrunning to a reply, you’d see post after post of people telling me I’m a secret white MAGA fanboy and that I should never dare to criticize their blue overlords. But go off, I guess.
 

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Bro...your entire job is to offset all GOP acts with what about the Democrats whataboutisms.

We are about to see South African cacs flood into the U.S. and you would be the type who goes what about Dems as they are being given red carpet treatment here in the states.

Not interested. You're see through.
i just an member of a anonymous forum I ain’t got shyt to do with the gop

I ain’t the one who somehow lose to trump twice, I ain’t part of the group of decision makers who wanted trump to be in office, I ain’t the one who basically set the stage for republicans to control the gov

You need to do some investigations internally and question your dem leadership
 

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:deadrose: imagine thinking holding the party that was supposed to stop this accountable is just ‘whataboutism.’
You stated that for every evil doing that Republicans are in the process of doing, make sure we go into the Democratic goody bag of responsibility as if they are the ones crafting republican policies that will impact people currently.

Its senseless.
 
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