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A nation based on the religion of Christianity, not a nation that has mostly Christians
Syria's gov was Alawite but most of the people we're Sunni, it was definitely not a Sunni nation, look at the conflict
Why hasn't there been any successful Atheist civilization?
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A nation based on the religion of Christianity, not a nation that has mostly Christians
Syria's gov was Alawite but most of the people we're Sunni, it was definitely not a Sunni nation, look at the conflict
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i think he means that your country is a _____ state if its tenents, philosophies and dogmas are imbeded in the laws and that the people are expected to follow the religion...or risked being alienated and treated as second class ..iran and pakistan are islamic states..pre communist tibet was buddhist state..feudal japan was a Shinto/Buddhist state..vatican is a catholic state etcccc
A nation based on the religion of Christianity, not a nation that has mostly Christians
Syria's gov was Alawite but most of the people we're Sunni, it was definitely not a Sunni nation, look at the conflict
Where does most western nation derive "what's moral" from then?
Emperor- "when you die, you die. Now that you know this, I want you to spend your whole life working for me for bread and water"
People-
Religion and control go hand in hand. When the Roman upper class saw the population converting to Christianity, they created Catholicism in order to control, they infiltrated it, similar to how hip hop has been infiltrated and commercialized today.
great post, which is why it bothers me that people call the Bible the 'white man's religion' even when scripture clearly states the opposite.
Its really as simple as gazing at a beautiful painting of mountains, lakes and streams with blooming flowers, and the bright blue sky dotted by clouds and saying. "Oh the paint just feel on the canvas like that".
absolutely no logic at all.
Yeah but the US is a secular nation governed by secular laws. The fact that the majority of citizens are Christian doesn't mean it was founded to be a Christian nation.
Sure, the DoI mentions 'creator', but thats a declaration of war...not a governing document. It's much easier to motivate people to fight in a war if they think god is on their side.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
Definately not Christianity. It's called secular humanism, moreover I think ti's called the englightment. This is probably the central idea in philosophy in the entire 17th 18th and 19th centuries. You didn't read Locke and Hobbes in College?
This is what Jefferson said about America being a Christian nation.
This is what we have in our declaration of independence
They certainly were not talking secularism when they wrote this document.
Most of our federal laws are derived from the Bible from the banning of gay marriage(DOMA) among other things....
Secular nations are putting "in God we trust" on their monies now?:jada:
Yeah, that replaced the original motto in the 1950's as a result of the Red Scare and McCarthyism. The founders didn't put that on money at all. It was the majority flexing their will, and people's fear of the Soviets that made this change possible.
this is the problem with religion, u mental midgets need to be told whats wrong and whats right. as a human being, u should just know wrong from right. it doesnt have to come from a religion. i dont need the bible to tell me that i should honor my parents and that i shouldnt kill or steal. ya act like people who dont believe in religion are just plain evil.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
This is what we have in our declaration of independence
They certainly were not talking secularism when they wrote this document.
Most of our federal laws are derived from the Bible from the banning of gay marriage(DOMA) among other things....
The declaration of independence is not a legal document, but the letter I posted actually was. It was a treaty with the King (Pasha?) of Libya. If they meant Christinaity, why didn't they specify which god? They may have held some religious views and they may have expressed them at different times, but their legislation we're totally secular.
Any federal law that comes from the Bible is inconsequential... DOMA was as a result of Republican lawmakers responding to the religiosity of their constituents (or perceived religiosity).
When talking about what the nation itself is based on and founded upon, it's clearly secular principles. Jefferson literally said America is in NO SENSE founded on Christianity, it's pretty hard to argue with that
Secular nations are putting "in God we trust" on their monies now?:jada:
You really trying to argue that the US isn't a secular country?
There are efforts towards this, but mistakes are (almost) forever. Just like the House have tried some 37,38 times to overturn Obamacare ... just because something's unpopular for a lot of people, doesn't mean a law can just easily change back.
why would a secular nation vote down gay marriage over 90% of the time?The declaration of independence is not a legal document, but the letter I posted actually was. It was a treaty with the King (Pasha?) of Libya. If they meant Christinaity, why didn't they specify which god? They may have held some religious views and they may have expressed them at different times, but their legislation we're totally secular.
Any federal law that comes from the Bible is inconsequential... DOMA was as a result of Republican lawmakers responding to the religiosity of their constituents (or perceived religiosity).
When talking about what the nation itself is based on and founded upon, it's clearly secular principles. Jefferson literally said America is in NO SENSE founded on Christianity, it's pretty hard to argue with that