Why Dont The Internets Acknowledge The CLASSIC "We Are The Streets" By THE LOX??

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Until you explain who was inspired or influenced by WATS then you have no case.

As long as I've posted on this, I don't think I've ever atted you, yet you're in here mentioning me.

a quote is a tag too, lil breh.

and I already answered your question when I said dam near everybody. what part of that don't u understand?? I don't have to go in specifics.

are you done now?

 

[JustCKing]

a quote is a tag too, lil breh.

and I already answered your question when I said dam near everybody. what part of that don't u understand?? I don't have to go in specifics.

are you done now?

So basically, you don't have an answer because any fanatic could post what you said about their favorite group.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

So basically, you don't have an answer because any fanatic could post what you said about their favorite group.

I like the LOX, but I'm not a fanatic.

I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to call myself a LOX fan, let alone a fanatic.

youre just way out the loop, and asking stupid questions. even if I put together a whole list of names, youre still gonna be stuck in delusion, so why bother.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

I think hip-hop journalism took something away from hip-hop.

Cause it's like cats won't view something through a lens unless the Hip-Hop media already attached those qualifiers to it...

 

[Mike Ock]

I think it was a cool album.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I think hip-hop journalism took something away from hip-hop.

Cause it's like cats won't view something through a lens unless the Hip-Hop media already attached those qualifiers to it...

THIS

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I think hip-hop journalism took something away from hip-hop.

Cause it's like cats won't view something through a lens unless the Hip-Hop media already attached those qualifiers to it...

THIS

its why I always tell dudes on here to stop putting so much validity on what these magazines & such say. they just have their personal interests at heart. theyre not representing whats really going on half the time.

I also think a lot of people don't like to be reminded that theyre out-of-the-loop on things that aren't being pushed via media. they rather just try to rewrite history to their liking and attempt to save face for fear of being exposed. and I admit, I have a harsh delivery when I communicate with people. it tends to add a bit too much fuel to the fire, but it is what it is.

 

[SirBiatch]

I think hip-hop journalism took something away from hip-hop.

Cause it's like cats won't view something through a lens unless the Hip-Hop media already attached those qualifiers to it...

depends on what era. Hip hop journalism in the 80s and 90s used to be so damn good that it inspired rappers to make classics. Whether it was to get notice in The Source, Rap Pages, Word Up magazine, etc And if you read their reviews of stuff, you could tell the people writing them were deeply intelligent, forward-thinking and charismatic for the most part. They were steering culture to inspire the absolute best..

But around the time XXL started dominating in the early 2000s, that's what pushed us into the woat era. Then hip hop magazines became echo chambers of whatever the most powerful label was pushing. I remember XXL being a straight up Interscope echo chamber, and the shyt would trip me out like "wow, these dudes aren't even trying to be objective." Funny how I'm just thinking about it - Interscope really pioneered the echo chamber in hip hop journalism. Anyway, if that's what you mean, then I totally agree. Woat journalism absolutely took hip hop down several notches.

 

[Hamza B.]

I think "WOTS" is a great album...not quite "classic" how I define it, but still great. It's become to cool to rip on Swizz Beats these days, but the production on this album is some of his best work. "fukk You", "Felony nikkas", and "U Told Me" are amazing beats imo, and fit the vibe of the lyrics perfectly.

As far as "Recognize" goes, I like it. It's simple and it's no frills, but it's still a nice beat...far from a Premo throwaway. And really, it includes one of the instances where Sheek outshines the rest on a song. I know this forum is really hard on Sheek (which I don't get at all btw), but listen to "Recognize" again and tell me his verse wasn't fire. He actually holds his own on the whole album, but it's cool to shyt on Sheek for some reason like he's Tito Jackson, but whatever.

I played the shyt out of this album back when it came out and I think, with the exception of a few mediocre tracks, it still holds up. I know it's definitely my favorite out of all The Lox group and solo albums.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

depends on what era. Hip hop journalism in the 80s and 90s used to be so damn good that it inspired rappers to make classics. Whether it was to get notice in The Source, Rap Pages, Word Up magazine, etc And if you read their reviews of stuff, you could tell the people writing them were deeply intelligent, forward-thinking and charismatic for the most part. They were steering culture to inspire the absolute best..

But around the time XXL started dominating in the early 2000s, that's what pushed us into the woat era. Then hip hop magazines became echo chambers of whatever the most powerful label was pushing. I remember XXL being a straight up Interscope echo chamber, and the shyt would trip me out like "wow, these dudes aren't even trying to be objective." Funny how I'm just thinking about it - Interscope really pioneered the echo chamber in hip hop journalism. Anyway, if that's what you mean, then I totally agree. Woat journalism absolutely took hip hop down several notches.

it was bullchit in the '90s as well brohski.
and it really didn't exist in the '80s. I loved Word Up, Right On, etc but they were moreso fanzines and they were the only mags that really covered hip-hop in the '80s.

artists weren't inspired to make classics because of magazine ratings.
the competition level was higher, the real talents werent filtered out or forced to play the background as much as nowadays, and they also had the benefit of not having to deal with as much interference from the label as 2000s rappers had to deal with. a lot of these classic '90s albums would've been classic mixtapes in the '00s, accompanied by disappointed albums. some of your bigger '90s legends like NAS would've been type-casted as a mixtape rapper, had he debuted 10 years later.

I don't remember XXL dominating, but I agree with your criticisms of them wholeheartedly.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I know this forum is really hard on Sheek (which I don't get at all btw), but listen to "Recognize" again and tell me his verse wasn't fire. He actually holds his own on the whole album, but it's cool to shyt on Sheek for some reason like he's Tito Jackson, but whatever.

its the conseqences of being the least-best member of a great group.

and sheek's predicament is extra tough, cuz hes in a trio where the two other members are considered two of the decade's best.

 

[JustCKing]

Hip Hop journalism did take away from Hip Hop to the extent that people became more of a critic than a fan. It made people think they could do the job of a Source or a XXL. Like, all this talk about whether an album is classic or not is pretty irrelevant to a listener. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. What matters is: how did you like the album/song/artist and how it made you feel. Nobody can argue against that. When you start trying to push that opinion on someone else though, of course people will agree, but at the same time, there will be disagreement. What's funny is there was a post here saying people would co-sign it being a classic if Pitchfork or somebody wrote an anniversary article on it. Then another poster posted a Vibe article on the 15th Anniversary of the album and it did nothing to change the minds of people who didn't think it was classic.

Now the other issue is when you have people thinking they are the singular voice of the culture. That there is essentially doing what magazines are accused of. Nobody experiences music the same way. There are albums that definitely moved the culture and those are your tried and true "classics" because no matter what part of the country or even the world, those albums are acknowledged as game changing, trend setting, high quality music with a legacy that holds up over time.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Hip Hop journalism did take away from Hip Hop to the extent that people became more of a critic than a fan. It made people think they could do the job of a Source or a XXL. Like, all this talk about whether an album is classic or not is pretty irrelevant to a listener. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. What matters is: how did you like the album/song/artist and how it made you feel. Nobody can argue against that. When you start trying to push that opinion on someone else though, of course people will agree, but at the same time, there will be disagreement. What's funny is there was a post here saying people would co-sign it being a classic if Pitchfork or somebody wrote an anniversary article on it. Then another poster posted a Vibe article on the 15th Anniversary of the album and it did nothing to change the minds of people who didn't think it was classic.

Now the other issue is when you have people thinking they are the singular voice of the culture. That there is essentially doing what magazines are accused of. Nobody experiences music the same way. There are albums that definitely moved the culture and those are your tried and true "classics" because no matter what part of the country or even the world, those albums are acknowledged as game changing, trend setting, high quality music with a legacy that holds up over time.

don't try to save face by posting a bunch of jibber.

youre the type of poster that I'm talking about actually.

because it was unknown to you for 2 decades, youre posting from a dark attic in a Georgia suburb, trying to tell me about the effects that album supposedly didn't have, specifically on the east coast.

 

[JustCKing]

don't try to save face by posting a bunch of jibber.

youre the type of poster that I'm talking about actually.

because it was unknown to you for 2 decades, youre posting from a dark attic in a Georgia suburb, trying to tell me about the effects that album supposedly didn't have, specifically on the east coast.

This isn't me trying to save face. I rarely cite journalist and when I do, it's because someone introduced it to the topic in the first place. Threads like these are the result of how Hip hop journalism has affected listeners. It has instilled a great degree of insecurity to where people seek validation for the music they like/love instead of simply not placing value on what other people think. Nobody had to tell me Doggystyle was a classic. I listened to it and instantly liked what I heard. I didn't care if anyone thought it was classic. I didn't know or care how many mics it got in The Source or whether Rollingstone was writing think pieces about it. When Stillmatic dropped, I knew what I felt about it and how people would call and be like "you hear the new Nas" or go to class and friends debate over which song was the best. I didn't need The Source or anyone else to validate that album for me. Some think it's a classic, others don't. Really don't care. It still remains one of my favorite albums. I'm not going to sit there and say it's one of the most influential or impactful albums because it's not. Definitely had impact at the time it dropped. It still holds up. If a topic about it comes up, I'd defend it and explain why I hold it in high regard and keep it moving.

You're guilty of exactly what you accuse magazines and media doing: creating false narratives. The difference is that you don't have the platform. Then there's the fact that you take a disliking to Hip Hop journalism because you got called out for trying to discredit writers at the Source. This thread is proof of that. Why would you care what the "Internets" acknowledge as a classic? Why does We Are The Streets HAVE to be a classic? Would you enjoy it any more or any less if people agree/disagree with you?

And I'm not the only poster in here who disagreed with you.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

This isn't me trying to save face. I rarely cite journalist and when I do, it's because someone introduced it to the topic in the first place. Threads like these are the result of how Hip hop journalism has affected listeners. It has instilled a great degree of insecurity to where people seek validation for the music they like/love instead of simply not placing value on what other people think. Nobody had to tell me Doggystyle was a classic. I listened to it and instantly liked what I heard. I didn't care if anyone thought it was classic. I didn't know or care how many mics it got in The Source or whether Rollingstone was writing think pieces about it. When Stillmatic dropped, I knew what I felt about it and how people would call and be like "you hear the new Nas" or go to class and friends debate over which song was the best. I didn't need The Source or anyone else to validate that album for me. Some think it's a classic, others don't. Really don't care. It still remains one of my favorite albums. I'm not going to sit there and say it's one of the most influential or impactful albums because it's not. Definitely had impact at the time it dropped. It still holds up. If a topic about it comes up, I'd defend it and explain why I hold it in high regard and keep it moving.

You're guilty of exactly what you accuse magazines and media doing: creating false narratives. The difference is that you don't have the platform. Then there's the fact that you take a disliking to Hip Hop journalism because you got called out for trying to discredit writers at the Source. This thread is proof of that. Why would you care what the "Internets" acknowledge as a classic? Why does We Are The Streets HAVE to be a classic? Would you enjoy it any more or any less if people agree/disagree with you?

And I'm not the only poster in here who disagreed with you.

you typed all this bullchit while completely ignoring the reason I called you out on your previous post/essay. YOURE SO FULL OF CHIT.

as for the bolded, myself and tons of others have had a dislike for magazine ratings & such, since the '90s. I didn't just suddenly feel this way a few months ago, when a handful of coli nerds tried to gang up on me, because I told them that theres no such thing as a hip-hop bible.

and I'm not the only poster that disagree WITH YOU. it doesn't matter how many times you ignore other posters, and try to focus on me like I'm crazy.

and you already know, my gripe with you isn't because you don't think its a classic. I went in on you because of all the extra stuff you were talking, knowing dam well that youre not qualified to even attempt to speak on such matters. but I see you keep trying to go off-topic with these little essays.

btw, DID YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE YET??? my foot is still on your neck fun-boy.