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Who is saying that the men that dont raise their kids arent at fault?

Um look at the first page they are mostly blaming the women in the situation.

wouldn't even be possible if a lot of them tried. y'all think these dudes honestly have the resources and time to split mutiple ways with multiple kids? :laugh: y'all live in a dream world.

Then shouldn't he wrap up his penis? That is cheaper and easier than birth control. A person can make a mistake once. But multiple times when you know you have no resources? This goes for women with multiple children as well, but this was about the men who don't take care of their children. What about those where the women is not even asking for resources, but just asking for quality time with their child? These men find time for anything else they want to do. This includes finding the time to have sex with and impregnate a woman again.
 

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We need to bring marriage back into the equation and the problem would be solved overnight, thats confirmation that the guy doesnt view the woman as nothing more than a quick come up. Otherwise, he most likely views the women as a slut or some sexual object which contributes to the 0 desire to stick with her and some b*stard child for 18 years in case of an unwanted pregnacy
 

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i got what you meant, and i still disagree. just staying to raise your kids isn't good enough either. quality of life means more above all else.

...which brings us to another level in this discussion:

"take care" is an onion of a term with many layers to peel back.
It's hard to say who really does an adequate job doing such as parents from afar...
 

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So you're a good catch :shaq:
I dont see it that way but :manny:. Granted these are all from ex girlfriends and flings but still. It's always weird to me when women say it.
One of them I initially said yes to but then backed out at the last minute. She was pissed but she understood and we're still close friends. While i feel flattered, the though of just having sex with someone to purposely produce a child and then walk away is kinda weird to me. Who knows i may eventually do it if i ever go over there. (she lives in a different country now)
 

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Um look at the first page they are mostly blaming the women in the situation.
They are mentioning how it will stop future cases of this happening.

Women not giving them opportunity will definitly stop these aint shyt men from getting the opportunity.

Where are the posts that defended the men not taking care of their kids? Where are the posts saying that the men who dont take care of the kids dont deserve blame?
 

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While there are indeed plenty of men who may not want to deal with taking care of their child because they have no interest in raising a child...

....I think that there are just as many men who DO want to raise their child but are more adverse to having to deal with the woman that's having their child AND it's probably a tad bit harder for someone wasn't ready to have a child to get invested when they're kept at a distance. We can't act like there aren't men out there who are fighting a grudge that the mother is holding because they would rather parent the child separately instead of doing it as a "family."

Just as bad is when people try to force a "family" to work by living together when the parents clearly don't get along and allow their relationships to sour to the point that they would rather have a parent not be in the child's life at all. I would want to think that every situation is different and there's no universal answer.
 

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that's not a real discussion then now is it? you just want men to fully blame themselves and pretend women have no choice in the matter.
You still not getting the point of the thread. The thread is not about picking the right person the thread is why men aren't taking care of their kids? Why aren't they loving them? Geez shyt is simple but u are still missing the point.
 

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They are mentioning how it will stop future cases of this happening.

Women not giving them opportunity will definitly stop these aint shyt men from getting the opportunity.

Where are the posts that defended the men not taking care of their kids? Where are the posts saying that the men who dont take care of the kids dont deserve blame?

Seriously? You are being willfully ignorant if you don't see the responses are putting more responsibility on the women. Which is what my initial post was about. They didn't even address the OP. Also please show me where I said that their were post that defended deadbeat men?
 
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