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I say its this more than anything. People have these fantasy views of what parenthood should be like...married, with the love of their life and the whole nine and when it doesnt fit that mold they dip. Its not the life they wanted.

I can see why you say the bolded, but that's a two-way street as well...

I know some women who have gotten pregnant and perhaps (to your point) realize they don't want to raise their child with that
particular man. Because of that, they limit said mans' access to that child. That doesn't make that man a "bum" or a "deadbeat",
but it does explain why so many men don't have as full a share in child rearing as they would like. There are a lot of men
being kept from their babies.


- One woman I know straight up a dude "I want to raise her by myself - don't even send me money."
- A couple of women dipped out of state and never told the daddies.


It's cold game - but it is the game...
 

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They not ready @Teedot ... They are not ready to admit that although I had a shytty upbringing I am ultimately responsible for my adult decisions... They aren't ready to admit that they aren't man enough to sacrifice for the greater good of their family instead of themselves...

They ain't ready @Teedot
Plus a woman's poor choice in a mate.

Also, their are many men who not only take care of their kids... but also kids who aren't theirs
 

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I don't even know why I stepped in here, its full of ignorance. People need to make better decisions, yes. Same time both parties are fully responsible and anything else is BS. The kid has half your DNA and if you run out on them you are a sorry human being. Saying a woman should have chosen better doesn't negate responsibility of the man, its a cop out. You don't want a child, don't go raw, use birth control, practice abstinence. If both parties don't do that, they both are responsible for the child.

OAN I know a lot of men who are actually fathers to their children. I know more of them then Deadbeats. I actually don't know a deadbeat :patrice: I know of some, but guys I know with kids are big in their lives.
 

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Naw I just feel like deflecting back to the women is giving these dudes a pass. .
we've all grown up hearing nothing but black men being blamed for single parent households. at what point are you ready to turn to the women and assign accountability for their part in all these broken homes? or do you just want to pretend all these women are just innocent victims like @Teedot
 
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They not ready @Teedot ... They are not ready to admit that although I had a shytty upbringing I am ultimately responsible for my adult decisions... They aren't ready to admit that they aren't man enough to sacrifice for the greater good of their family instead of themselves...

They ain't ready @Teedot
Plus a woman's poor choice in a mate.

Also, their are many men who not only take care of their kids... but also kids who aren't theirs
.........@ people blaming women for men's actions.

Yes, women can make smarter decisions, but that's not an excuse for men not to take responsibility for their children.

The question is why are they BUM ASS in the first place? Not "why do women choose bum ass men."
Show me a sorry ass man and ill show you the chick who helped make him that way....

Women ignore the signs... deep inside you knew the nikka was sry when you let him nut in you. How weak is it for you to call out ALL men because you were a foolish ass dumb bytch? Thats just silly
 

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I don't even know why I stepped in here, its full of ignorance. People need to make better decisions, yes. Same time both parties are fully responsible and anything else is BS. The kid has half your DNA and if you run out on them you are a sorry human being. Saying a woman should have chosen better doesn't negate responsibility of the man, its a cop out. You don't want a child, don't go raw, use birth control, practice abstinence. If both parties don't do that, they both are responsible for the child.

OAN I know a lot of men who are actually fathers to their children. I know more of them then Deadbeats. I actually don't know a deadbeat :patrice: I know of some, but guys I know with kids are big in their lives.
Who is saying that the men that dont raise their kids arent at fault?
 

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I don't even know why I stepped in here, its full of ignorance. People need to make better decisions, yes. Same time both parties are fully responsible and anything else is BS.
wouldn't even be possible if a lot of them tried. y'all think these dudes honestly have the resources and time to split mutiple ways with multiple kids? :laugh: y'all live in a dream world.
 

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Not to derail the thread but I have a question for you: What do you make of the women who seek sperm donors or just wanna have a baby with men that have no interest of being with them?

I have had 2 women ask me to father their children. These are women that were in their early to mid 30s on the "clock ticking" mode. Their approach was "I just want a child, you dont have to be involved". Now, im no pretty boy super model or self-proclaimed "Alpha-male" type. So if i could have females making these proposals to me how do i know that there arent as many other mofos getitng the same from clock ticking females?
Well if she only wants a sperm donor than that's a diff story. If I were a man I don't think I would be cool doing that. It would just seem weird having kids out there that I have no part of their life.

So basically a man that does this I wouldn't look down on but I still think it should be hard to have a kid but not be in their life.

I really don't think doing this is a good thing but oh well

Good question. You could turn that into a thread.
 

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we've all grown up hearing nothing but black men being blamed for single parent households. at one point are you ready to turn to the women and assign accountability for their part in all these broken homes? or do you just want to pretend all these women are just innocent victims like @Teedot
Breh I agree with most of the stuff guys say about how women picking shytty partners. My issue is that we ignore what men aren't doing and focus only on the women who happen to be doing their part
 

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Well if she only wants a sperm donor than that's a diff story. If I were a man I don't think I would be cool doing that. It would just seem weird having kids out there that I have no part of their life.

So basically a man that does this I wouldn't look down on but I still think it should be hard to have a kid but not be in their life.

I really don't think doing this is a good thing but oh well

Good question. You could turn that into a thread.
And this is NOT counting the "if i'm not married or have a child by the time i'm 36 i want you to be my sperm donor" proposals i have had. I have about 3 more of those
 

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Let's be real. A lot of guys can be bums and they don't raise their kids. They won't do shyt for them. But not every man that has not taken care of his kid is some broke ass man who sits up in some girls house eating up all her food.

Let's discuss....
they are immature , wasn't ready to deal with the consequence of going for a quick nut when they realize they are not compatible with the chick it's too late
 

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Breh I agree with most of the stuff guys say about how women picking shytty partners. My issue is that we ignore what men aren't doing and focus only on the women who happen to be doing their part

doing their part by raising the kids THEY wanted :heh: yeah, i am going to ignore that. :ld:
 
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