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Not to derail the thread but I have a question for you: What do you make of the women who seek sperm donors or just wanna have a baby with men that have no interest of being with them?

I have had 2 women ask me to father their children. These are women that were in their early to mid 30s on the "clock ticking" mode. Their approach was "I just want a child, you dont have to be involved". Now, im no pretty boy super model or self-proclaimed "Alpha-male" type. So if i could have females making these proposals to me how do i know that there arent as many other mofos getitng the same from clock ticking females?

Edit: And this is NOT counting the "if i'm not married or have a child by the time i'm 36 i want you to be my sperm donor" I have about 3 more of those
those bytches are lying.. and the moment they can't pay a light bill or see you make 200k a year, you'll be right in court... and they can go on the stand and admit they said that and you're still paying up

that and the fact a lot of women believe a baby will keep a man

now how can a man have a baby and not give a fukk........


it's not in our nature... you are around a kid, you love them, you care about them.. same as any other person... you might care more for the kid.. cause you made them.. but there's no difference in love if you adopted a kid.. or your sisters kid... or your brother...

so you nut in a chick... you never loved her.. you never were around the whole time to get attached to the baby in the womb... you never saw the baby at the hospital... and you pretty much never knew him

it's easy to walk away from someone you never knew...


now how do nikkas be around a kid till he's 13... then disappear... i have no answers
 

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Men need to take care of their seeds, point, blank, period. It does work both ways and if a woman is not ready for a baby or suspects the dude would dip if she got pregnant, she should use contraceptives. It has become a culture for some folks to be a "baby mama" or "baby dehdeh". It's many reasons for this including government assistance, "trapping someone", being single at an older age, etc. We got to address it from every aspect and not just deflect attention back to the women. I had to switch barbers recently because he straight up told me he had a daughter in Philly and he been tryna duck her. Never going back to that dead beat nikka.
Word breh:ohhh:? You're dudes razor game must have been weak as fukk, cause if my barber told me that shyt I'd have been on some:manny:. fukk a moral compass, ya boy gotta stay flee out here
 
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@Teedot let me help you put an end to this thread

WOMEN ...Woman up !!!
-say I choose to fukk who I wanna fukk ...but I dont wanna look bad while doing it ...and people know about it (woman up)
- say you have turned down some nice guy cause they was boring...(woman up)
-say you have had abortion or abortions but walk around like you better than dem ratchet hoes.( woman up)
- say ya mama anit shyt and your father wasnt shyt ...and you know they wasnt (woman up)
-say I choose to wear and leave the house how I want but dont want dem crazy comments from men (woman up)
- say you should be more selective when you choose a guy to be in a reationship ...or to just have a fling
- say to have the man of my dreams I have to become the woman of my dreams .
- say I dont like when men talk about women cause sometimes they are right (woman up)...especially when they know what they talking about.

MEN ...Man up !
- say baby girl I dont know what love is but I wanna add you to my list thoe (man up)
- say I want a women like my mama (man up)
- say I have no goals and no life plan but I know how to fukk (man up)
- say I cant tell you the truth cause deep down I have insecurities (man up)
- say I cant tell you the truth cause I think you would leave me (man up)
- say I should be working on spiritual goals as well as personal goals and these should take me to the next level ...but I like being AVERAGE ( man up )
- say you dont wanna push yourself cause .. cause some women likes AVERAGE
- say you go after women that are easy ...Instead of ones that would challenge you (man up)
- Say my dad was the same way with women (man up)
- say its some women out here that love nothing ass nikkas ...(man up )
- Say im black male that has been emasculated since I was a little (man up )
- say I should eat, sleep, breath the best man I can be .........(man up)
 
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Broken people attract broken people . A lot if us are insecure on the inside ...we not as mature as we think so naturally you attract WHAT you are or you go after what you are. Most of when looking for a mate dont challenge ourselves...so we go after what is easy and sometimes this puts many people on a path they didnt wanna go down. Men play up a women insecurities on the low plus tell them what they wanna hear ...its usually a recipe for an unwanted child and a man that wasnt ready. Women have more control than what they think . Its no rhyme or reason we as people play a part in it ...I dont like your title teedot dont just hold men accountable hold women accountable as well I say this cause its a two why street. Its women out her that no men anit shyt ...then you got nikkas that will just fukk anything.
 

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why didn't i want to have children??
because i don't get involved in circumstances where i don't have rights or some "control" of the situation
if i put energy/time/money into something, i expect some representative "stake" in it

true- there are no guarantees in life
fate can yank something away from you with no notice
but in normal interactions- if i put the work in, i get the reward out
it's not about quid pro quo
but it is psychologically healthy to pick pursuits where your involvement (1) is welcomed and (2) matters
that's not some control freak thing
it is the meaning of life- to find productive outlets for our energies and resources

as it pertains to children
we are told on a nonstop daily basis that the woman has all controls
that is very precious to them- for better or worse
a woman can abort
a woman can move across the country with the child
a woman can be a narcotics addict and the man can be humanitarian of the year
doesn't matter- the man will have zero say
she gets custody
if he's late with the payment- then he's a criminal deadbeat

okay, so fine
i said- "enjoy your 100% control"
but don't be surprised when only deadbeats volunteer for the gig
another generation forward- it continues to play out
quality men have other options where control is shared proportionally on a merit basis
 

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Theres actual sorry excuses for men expecting women to take on all the responsibility of raising a child

Maan yall whitewashed americanized ass nikkaz are straight up castrated boys

Do u know what a man is.

A man's responsibility is teh protection and well being of the fam

His responsibility to lead that sht

Feminism got u nikkaz weak minded and fcked up

talm bout "bubububu its da woman's job"

nikka go find your father or find some wisdom
 

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They not ready @Teedot ... They are not ready to admit that although I had a shytty upbringing I am ultimately responsible for my adult decisions... They aren't ready to admit that they aren't man enough to sacrifice for the greater good of their family instead of themselves...

They ain't ready @Teedot

Couldn't the same be said for the women who end up having children with these irresponsible men :ld:?

Men, specifically black men, have always been looked at fukked up for not taking care of their children.

But black women who have sex with these dudes don't seem to want to own up to their share of the criticism.

If the man you're with isn't taking care of his children, half the blame goes on you, and half the blame goes on him.
 

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Its crazy that men in this thread who were children of single mothers are really arguing in favour of dead-beat dads. I know quite a few stable, professional men who ran away when they're girlfriend got pregnant, even though they had the ability to take care of them. But somehow its "the mother's fault" for staying to spend the next 22 years taking care of the child. nikkas will do Olympic-level gymnastics to try and prove a point that doesn't hold up :snoop:
 

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Couldn't the same be said for the women who end up having children with these irresponsible men :ld:?

Men, specifically black men, have always been looked at fukked up for not taking care of their children.

But black women who have sex with these dudes don't seem to want to own up to their share of the criticism.

If the man you're with isn't taking care of his children, half the blame goes on you, and half the blame goes on him.

Yes, Black women absolutely should be accountable for their poor choices...

But this thread is about why Men are not accountable to their own flesh and blood... No one is mentioning forced companionship with the baby mother...

The question is why do some Black men find it soo easy to walk away from their child rearing duties...

Child support is a hamburger... We talking bout hugs here... Why is abandonment normalized in the Black brotherhood?
 

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Couldn't the same be said for the women who end up having children with these irresponsible men :ld:?

Men, specifically black men, have always been looked at fukked up for not taking care of their children.

But black women who have sex with these dudes don't seem to want to own up to their share of the criticism.

If the man you're with isn't taking care of his children, half the blame goes on you, and half the blame goes on him.
Why would Black women take any criticism? They're taking care of the kids, which is the entire point of the thread :birdman:
 
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