Why Can't We Just Admit That We Live In An OLIGARCHY? (With An Illusion Of Choice)

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We're talking about money lobbyists who have control over our politicians you imbecile

Whats wrong with donating money to campaigns? And why can't you find anyone to do the same, for interests you care about?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It doesn't matter how passionate a group is breh.
What matters in America is how much financial resources you have at your disposal

An oligarchy is defined as a government controlled by the few. And if that is not accurate description of the banking cartels influence on all forms of politics then what is?
Not only is America an oligarchy but it is also a plutocracy.

democracy is meant to rely on majority rule of the citizens, do you think that it is fair that one side has more money than another and therefore has greater influence? That doesn't sound fair at all. In fact it opens doors for people with wealth who are the minority to place who THEY want in power at the cost of the majority, which undermines the very premise of democracy.

America is not really so different from Afghanistan, except America has have the illusion of political freedom. The two party system is a complete farce which lets citizens feel as though they are participating in the "democratic" process.

So a group with nothing to offer anyone is supposed to accomplish significant thing?

 

[EndDomination]

I am pro-socialism, however I don't think mankind is ready for socialism yet
although I do believe it is an inevitability and the next progression in society.

For the time being though , I'm a skeptic. I don't take sides.

It honestly is, when the developing world reaches a certain point, its likely they'll err toward "world socialism" simply on the basis of economic development, and without the US' ability to try and stop the "Domino Effect" it'll probably gain some traction.
That being said we still do live in a representative democracy, though our party system stands in the way of that, just by establishment alone.
There needs to be reform, but we're not at the point of Oligarchy yet.

 

[BocaRear]

So a group with nothing to offer anyone is supposed to accomplish significant thing?

So the average citizen has nothing to offer?

What do you mean by "accomplishing something significant"?

Are you suggesting that only people that have a certain amount of accomplishment should be allowed to have political influence?

That doesn't sound like a democracy at all, sounds like a meritocracy/plutocracy you're describing

 

[SirReginald]

Whats wrong with donating money to campaigns? And why can't you find anyone to do the same, for interests you care about?

When citizens and unions whom are for the people donate to campaigns I don't see an issue. However, when it's corporations and money lobbyists you know they want something in return. Stop playing stupid

 

[SirReginald]

So the average citizen has nothing to offer?

What do you mean by "accomplishing something significant"?

Are you suggesting that only people that have a certain amount of accomplishment should be allowed to have political influence?

That doesn't sound like a democracy at all, sounds like a meritocracy/plutocracy you're describing

This guy puts his argument in a certain way to get a reaction. Dude just asked me, "why is it wrong for them to donate?"

 

[EndDomination]

Some of yall need to experience how people live in other countries before commenting on things...smh.

Just not the Nordic countries, where their party system is far more refined, or the UK which caps billionaires ability to influence political campaigns
We don't want posters realising just how bad the US political system actually is

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So the average citizen has nothing to offer?

What do you mean by "accomplishing something significant"?

Are you suggesting that only people that have a certain amount of accomplishment should be allowed to have political influence?

That doesn't sound like a democracy at all, sounds like a meritocracy/plutocracy you're describing

The "average citizen" shouldn't have a problem of starting a movement

Come on.

Yall want something for no effort here.

BLM ain't rich, but hate them or love them, they're pushing a lot of dialogue out here.

 

[ezrathegreat]

We live in a system of white supremacy

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

When citizens and unions whom are for the people donate to campaigns I don't see an issue. However, when it's corporations and money lobbyists you know they want something in return. Stop playing stupid

Not every union is "for the people" you know.

This is the problem. You don't understand THE SYSTEM

Of course they want something in return.

Private citizens who get 100 people to throw in $1,000 also want something in return.

EVERYONE wants something in return. You think you're any different?

 

[SirReginald]

Not every union is "for the people" you know.

This is the problem. You don't understand THE SYSTEM

Of course they want something in return.

Private citizens who get 100 people to throw in $1,000 also want something in return.

EVERYONE wants something in return. You think you're any different?

I said, "When citizens and unions whom are for the people donate to campaigns I don't see an issue." Meaning, that there's unions that are corrupt. I'm calling out an unjust system which says one thing, but contrary to what its suppose to represent. Goddamn, why are you doing this? You know this shyt is wrong.

 

[BocaRear]

It honestly is, when the developing world reaches a certain point, its likely they'll err toward "world socialism" simply on the basis of economic development, and without the US' ability to try and stop the "Domino Effect" it'll probably gain some traction.
That being said we still do live in a representative democracy, though our party system stands in the way of that, just by establishment alone.
There needs to be reform, but we're not at the point of Oligarchy yet.

With the surplus of production and the economic progress that is taking place ACROSS the globe right now, it's only a matter of time before we enter a stage where there will be a great redistrubition of wealth

I disagree breh, America wasn't founded as a Representative Democracy. It was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Sometime in the early 20th Century the Federal Reserve established great influence over the US essentially which effectively shifted it to an Oligarchy in which the Banking cartels held the real sovereignty.

Go look up The creature from jekyll island, it goes into detail about the banks.

 

[EndDomination]

Motherfukker, I've volunteered and use to read to school kids. Also, I'm moving soon, so I haven't had time to do things. Trying to get on my feet and go back to school for a fitness trade and maybe major in something down the line. You are shyt as a poster. Everytime you get sonned.

I would avoid fitness-related majors in school.
The Accounting and Econ courses generally transfer over into any and all 4-year schools fairly smoothly. As do Physics, Mathematics and Computer Programming and the like if you'd want to go into engineering, programming, computer science/engineering, mathematics, economics, etc.
You'd be incredibly surprised at the flexibility of those degrees, in terms of career potential, earning potential, internship potential, and ways to help growth in various countries all over the US. Trust me when I say researching before you begin will be your friend, read CollegeConfidential/StudentDoctor/TLS/ and various career forums. I'm still learning and I work in a university during the school year.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I said, "When citizens and unions whom are for the people donate to campaigns I don't see an issue." Meaning, that there's unions that are corrupt. I'm calling out an unjust system which says one thing, but contrary to what its suppose to represent. Goddamn, why are you doing this? You know this shyt is wrong.

So you don't like it when people do things you don't like.

Thats a tautology bro

This shyt ain't wrong. Its just you're too lazy to fight for what you claim to believe in.

 

[BocaRear]

The "average citizen" shouldn't have a problem of starting a movement

Come on.

Yall want something for no effort here.

BLM ain't rich, but hate them or love them, they're pushing a lot of dialogue out here.

Whatever it is you're describing doesn't reflect the definition of a Democracy regardless

"Something for no effort", that's kind of the point of Democracy breh.

Every citizen is entitled to EQUAL voting power and political influence regardless of any other factors.