Why are AA's the only group in the diaspora who are told get in tune with their culture?

[Henri Christophe]

We don't control the media

Boom.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Asians have Confucius, Western Europeans got Aristotle and Plato...who do African Americans point to, to represent their intellectual and philosophical heritage?

Old racist cacs unfortunately.

At least thats what taught in schools.

 

[Poitier]

I haven't seen any threads with this specific topic, if you have links feel free to share them

And how are you going to try and tell me what my intention is? I'm not one of the poster on here who has a history of making divisive diasporic threads or is generally involved in them

It's ironic that you're the only one being divisive thus far in this thread.

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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/afri...ng-their-culture-legitimate-criticism.340157/

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-grapevine-africans-aas-and-caribbeans.558381/


And there are literally 10000 threads with dozens of pages each discussing diasporic culture including tons of well thought out post on the "AA cultureless" thing

Its a dead horse and you dudes aren't slick when you make these threads in 2018

 

[T'krm]

Exactly.

But this thread was not made with the intent of actual constructive dialogue.

The non AAs on here like to make these threads knowing they will eventually devolve and then use that to paint themselves as victims against the evil AAs.

Perhaps.
Regardless it's a conversation that needs to occur internally, and externally. To try and paint us a chronic complainers, and 'victims', proves the point, and imo is a good sign, believe it or not!
It's signaling that we wont cnt to just take it on the chin, and we are starting to figure out and outline our boundaries in ways which we never did before. Growing pains aint always comfortable, or presentable, but oh well. It's the end result that's important.

 

[Turk]

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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/afri...ng-their-culture-legitimate-criticism.340157/

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-grapevine-africans-aas-and-caribbeans.558381/


And there are literally 10000 threads with dozens of pages each discussing diasporic culture including tons of well thought out post on the "AA cultureless" thing

Its a dead horse and you dudes aren't slick when you make these threads in 2018

Both these threads are pretty old.....and they also don't deal with the same topic.

You came into this thread furious and negging me, while accusing me of being divisive but you don't even understand what the topic of this thread is. Neither of those threads deal with the question that I'm specifically asking.

This thread isn't about supposedly appropriating African culture or anything like that.

The crux of this thread is......why do other groups of Black people in the diaspora, who have a shared history of chattel slavery and the stripping of their Africans roots, not face the questions of having culture of knowing their culture?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

AAs are seen as not African enough...

Like we are just the facsimile of White people... but have Black skin.

And it doesn't help that AAs see shyt like food and music as "culture" which it's not, those are cultural products made for mass consumption.

When people see you...as nothing but the group of people that put seasoning on their food and they can dance and sing really good...then you gonna be treated as such.

When you view yourself as music and food then you gonna be tried.

AA's need to look to WEB Dubois, David Walker and Frederick Douglass as the root of Black American culture instead of looking to fukking Michael Jackson and Jay Z.

Every other group in the America, when it comes down to their culture, they look towards their philosophical and political leader.

They don't think about their food and music...

So yeah, AA's have a culture problem.

African American have be deluded and many others have been deluded regarding what culture is.

Culture isn't how you wear your hair, or what you eat or the music you listen...culture is how you view their world. Everything else is cultural products for sell and exchange.

Asians have Confucius, Western Europeans got Aristotle and Plato...who do African Americans point to, to represent their intellectual and philosophical heritage?

Here you go again with the passive aggressive racism

"Culture: Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies. Culture is considered a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of phenomena that are transmitted through social learning in human societies"

Due to our history of oppression we have always expressed ourselves thru music and food. This started during slavery becuz we had no choice. Our culture starts from having to cope with our situation. Frederick Douglas embodied that. He learned to read, escaped, and became a historical figure as a result. Everything he achieved as a free man was the result of him coping with his situation as a black man in America. At the same time we only been free for 150 years and we are still trying to figure out who we are.

Confucius, Aristotle, and Plato? Those societies had been around 100s of years before these dudes surfaced. Gives us time

 

[Poitier]

Both these threads are from over a year ago so.....and they also don't deal with the same topic.

You came into this thread furious and negging me, while accusing me of being divisive but you don't even understand what the topic of this thread is. Neither of those threads deal with the question that I'm specifically asking.

This thread isn't about supposedly appropriating African culture or anything like that. The crux of this thread is......why do other groups of Black people in the diaspora, who have a shared history of chattel slavery and the stripping of their Africans roots not face the questions of having culture of knowing their culture?

Yeah they do and you're corny.

The grapevine series goes into the topic in depth about Islanders/AAs being perceived different and the first thread specifically addresses why Africans such as yourself thought AAs had no culture.

Amid the dozens of Black Panther diasporic war threads popping off atm, we don't need some African nikka rehashing a topic feigning like there aren't 1000s of post on the subject in question.

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

Because we're the best, everyone knows it and when you're the best being nitpicked comes with the territory.

Why are the NFL's great franchises like the Cowboys and Steelers nitpicked every year but the historically irrelevant Minnesota Vikings are?
Why is Manchester United scrutinized every year and the New England Revolution arent?
How come LeBron gets hate but Tayshaun Prince doesnt?

 

[Dzali OG]

As Native Blacks we haven't defined our culture yet.

We are perhaps the youngest ethnicity on this planet if you think about it.

 

[Cynic]

I think because AAs are the only group that dont have a land to retreat to, so people look at AAs as a lost people on some foreign land.

Tell that to Afro-Colombians and Brazilians ...

This "culture" talk is just a way for Africans to look down on everyone... it's not to be taken serious

AAs have made significant contributions in music for the last 100 years

What gets lost in translation is the effect of Jim Crow/War On Drugs/Prison Industrial complex and its effects on AAs

Other diaspora blacks are woefully ignorant in this aspect

 

[Turk]

Yeah they do and you're corny.

The grapevine series goes into the topic in depth about Islanders/AAs being perceived different and the first thread specifically addresses why Africans such as yourself thought AAs had no culture.

Amid the dozens of Black Panther diasporic war threads popping off atm, we don't need some African nikka rehashing a topic feigning like there aren't 1000s of post on the subject in question.

Idk why you're getting so mad

I saw the Grapevine video in it's entirety when it initially came out and it did not address what I am specifically asking in depth. Don't lump me in with some Africans who might feel that way, I've never been on that tip.

This thread hasn't dissolved into being a disaporic war or any of that nonsense. The posts in here thus far have been fairly respectable with insight. The only person in here warping this thread into something else is YOU.

 

[Poitier]

Man, whatever.

Going forward, I'll be sure to document the ethnic origins of all these diaspora threads.

There is a very obvious pattern.

The rest of the AAs need to see the pattern and intent so they can stop entertaining them.

 

[Soundbwoy]

This question popped into my mind after a verbal sparring that took place on Twitter. There was a discussion about AA's wearing Dashiki's and other African garb to the premier of Black Panther that somehow dissolved into AA's not knowing their culture or having to get in tune with their culture.

This raised the question in my mind....why does everyone single out AA's specifically in the whole diaspora regarding this?

Jamaicans, Trinidadian's, Brazilians, and etc are all the descendants of slaves too....yet I never hear anyone tell them that they don't "know their culture" or anything along those lines. Everyone seems to respect the identities that Caribbeans and etc have carved for themselves, but the same can't be said for AA's.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing to try and get in touch with whatever African roots you may have, but people just don't seem to respect the fact that AA's have carved out their own unique identities the same way other diasporic groups of Black people have

I think it’s because caribbrehs where able to retain part of their culture by concealing their knowledges when they got converted to Catholicism but don’t get it fukk up we all get looked down upon by some Africans as being descendent of those who got captured

 

[Henri Christophe]

Tell that to Afro-Colombians and Brazilians ...

This "culture" talk is just a way for Africans to look down on everyone... it's not to be taken serious

AAs have made significant contributions in music for the last 100 years

What gets lost in translation is the effect of Jim Crow/War On Drugs/Prison Industrial complex and its effects on AAs

Other diaspora blacks are woefully ignorant in this aspect

Fam..... Theres entire industries and companies built around AA culture and billions of dollars have been made off AA culture....

If AAs think people are tryna disrespect or down play the culture.... nikkas bugging out.


I never heard nobody say AAs dont have culture.... Lets be real for a second... Thats some internet shyt

In the real world, nikkas (cacs mostly) is gettin rich

 

[AlainLocke]

Here you go again with the passive aggressive racism

"Culture: Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies. Culture is considered a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of phenomena that are transmitted through social learning in human societies"

Due to our history of oppression we have always expressed ourselves thru music and food. This started during slavery becuz we had no choice. Our culture starts from having to cope with our situation. Frederick Douglas embodied that. He learned to read, escaped, and became a historical figure as a result. Everything he achieved as a free man was the result of him coping with his situation as a black man in America. At the same time we only been free for 150 years and we are still trying to figure out who we are.

Confucius, Aristotle, and Plato? Those societies had been around 100s of years before these dudes surfaced. Gives us time

Food and music isn't culture...

And we are already know who we are...

That's thing....

I ain't confused about who I am...

I have no desire to look towards Africa

I don't need to put on a daishiki

I don't feel the need to think food and music is what defines me...I do not point to celebrities and food dishes to signify my African Americanness...that's stupid...

No Nigerian man is gonna give you some Fufu and say this defines me...

The fact that when people think of African Americans and think about fried chicken and collard greens is offensive as fukk...so no...food doesn't fine me...

I have my cultural heroes...I got David Walker, Frederick Douglass, WEB Dubois, Alain Locke..they tell me who I am and where I come from...and people can go read what they wrote and what they said and what they did and get the entire meaning of what it means to be an African American...

That's the point of culture...

And you are annoying as fukk...you always defenisive like a hoe on the block..

Always being passive aggressive like a bytch...