Who was the bigger scumbag, Tony Soprano or Walter White?

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Tony's a high functioning sociopath. Just let it go bruh :heh: Its cool. That's why we watched the show anyway. All them guineas was crazy.
Yea but tony was head of a major crime family wtf fukk u expect.. at the end of the day he took care of his fam and they loved him for it. Walt was a greedy narcissist fukk also but look how his family ended up
 

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The two deaths that let me know how fukked up the cats on the Sopranos were was the stripper broad Tracee and to a lesser extent, Jackie Jr. All these nikkas served under Jackie Sr. before Tony got the crown, acted like they loved him, kissed his feet and less than two years after he died, they killed his son. Kid was already sh*tting his pants, he knew he fukked up, nikka was so scared straight he'd probably gone and joined the army afterward, nikka was SHOOK....you'd think they give the former boss's kid a pass and a ticket out of Jersey. Nope. Headshot :russ:


And the Tracee broad was innocent and naive (despite being a stripper). She was a dumb kid that didn't know no better and when she stood up for herself, Ralph killed her like it wasn't nothing and when the rest of the guys found her body, they were more upset that Ralph did it out in the open and at the club :heh: then they were that he just murdered a 20 year old girl. Fukkin evil azz nikkas :heh: Paulie had the nerve to be upset that the spirits at the psychic's house said he was going to Hell....like really bruh? REALLY? :heh: You murdered 60 people.
 

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It's close. Tony gave a lot of people second chances. Chris, Ralphie, Jackie Jr, etc..... even p*ssy to a certain extent. But he should of killed that soccer coach :lupe:
Walt gave Jesse too many chances. Remember that conversation on the phone with Skylar about dealing with Hank, he had the :ld: face the whole time.
 

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Tony is who he is, everybody who dealt with him knew it. Only his kids had no choice in the matter.

Walter White is the bigger scumbag to me cuz he was fooling folks, dragging them into his mess without their consent or even knowledge.
Are you for real? Walt dragging people into his mess without their consent ? Every person involved with him could have walked away at anytime , Jesse could have not to agreed to work with him anymore and would be clear if he did that. Sky could have turned him in when she found out about him at the very beginning , they all had that choice to walk away. Tony tricked and used everyone in his path. dikk Barone had to deal with him and when his son took over look what Tony out the family thru and Jason was innocent to it all. Pauli forced him to kick up 5 k per month to him no matter what. Tony is the worst by far because in his position he could give people passes and didn't ever.
 

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Its actually pretty close... Walt has 27 bodies on his record... :ohhh: 28 if you include Jane. He also poisoned Brock and was indirectly responsible for the death of Hank, Gomez and 167 people in that plane crash. And while many of those deaths were essentially "self-defense" or otherwise justifiable he had 10 potential witnesses killed when he could have just bounced with his cash.
 
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Are you for real? Walt dragging people into his mess without their consent ? Every person involved with him could have walked away at anytime , Jesse could have not to agreed to work with him anymore and would be clear if he did that. Sky could have turned him in when she found out about him at the very beginning , they all had that choice to walk away. Tony tricked and used everyone in his path. dikk Barone had to deal with him and when his son took over look what Tony out the family thru and Jason was innocent to it all. Pauli forced him to kick up 5 k per month to him no matter what. Tony is the worst by far because in his position he could give people passes and didn't ever.

Skyler, Hank, Marie were all dragged into Walt's BS without their consent...dude was living a double life.
 

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Personally, I feel there is one moment where Tony shows just how ugly he is inside that stands above all others. It's during season 5 when Janice takes anger management therapy, and he sees how well she seems to be doing, and he can't stand it, so he provokes her by bringing up her estranged son.:wow:

Not even killing Chris compares, because at least there was some logical reasons for that(he was a liability). But seeing your sister, who you know had the same fukked up childhood and mother as you, finally starting to put her life on track and become a better person, so out of jealousy you just ruin it and laugh in her face. That's like... so petty, and selfish.

Heisenberg has done some pretty terrible things, but I feel that even in his darkest hour Heisenberg never sank that low. Except maybe when he told Jesse he watched Jane die. But even if that was a deliberate twist of the knife, at least at that point he and Jesse were at each other's throats. There was no love at that point.

What Tony pulled was just a ruthless, calculated attack on a person he supposedly loved, meant to break her down and bring her back into misery(the same as him) just out of pure spite.:to:
 

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Personally, I feel there is one moment where Tony shows just how ugly he is inside that stands above all. It's during season 5 when Janice takes anger management therapy, and he sees how well she seems to be doing, and he can't stand it, so he provokes her by bringing up her estranged sun.:wow:

Not even killing Chris compares, because at least there was some logical reasons for that(he was a liability). But seeing your sister, who you know had the same fukked up childhood and mother as you, finally starting to put her life on tract and become a better person, so out of jealousy you just ruin it and laugh in her face. That's like... so petty, and selfish.

Heisenberg has done some pretty terrible things, but I feel that even in his darkest hour Heisenberg never sank that low. Except maybe when he told Jesse he watched Jane die. But even if that was a deliberate twist of the knife, at least at that point he and Jesse were at each other's throats. There was no love at that point.

What Tony pulled was just a ruthless, calculated attack on a person he supposedly loved, meant to break her down and bring her back into misery(the same as him) just out of pure spite.:to:

What about when he saw how happy Jesse was with Andrea and then manipulated him into breaking up with her?:whoo:
 

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What about when he saw how happy Jesse was with Andrea and then manipulated him into breaking up with her?:whoo:
It's up there, but at least Walt had a vested interest in keeping Jesse under his control - self-preservation. Not saying that justifies it, but you can at least see there's a logical reason for it.

With Tony/Janice, that's simply not the case. There was no benefit to be gained from Janice's misery. He simply did it out of crabs in a barrel mentality.
 
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