Who was more of a sidekick?

[Goatpoacher]

Kobe put up more points, steals, assists, rebounds and was a better free throw/deep ball shooter in his years with Shaq than Wade is in his years with Bron. But we call Kobe the sidekick? Why? The distance between Shaq/Kobe is shorter than the distance between Bron/Wade. But I dont see Wade getting the same level of disrespect. If its not the stats, and if we know Kobe used to close out games too, what is it?

Did you even watch basketball during the threepeat? IT's funny how STATS are the only thing that matter now.

If that's true, then Lebron > Kobe and Wade, no argument right? BUt once that argument comes up, you c*nts switch to "5 rings!"

IT's been so many years, and you c*nts just keep shifting your arguments around to match the current circumstances.

If you base everything on your "stats" you'd see that Westbrook has the worst numbers, therefore is the most ... sidekickish?

However, if you look at the teams, BOTH THE HEAT AND LAKERS DID BETTER without Wade and Kobe, respectively. On the other hand, I will assure you that the thunder would do worse without Westbrook.

Does that say anything?

 

[Goatpoacher]

Lakers were a about 5-1 without kobe this year, including games against good teams


Lakers went on a 10 game win streak in 2001 when kobe went out.

Kobe = empty stat padder. Him losing the series against OKC should have proved that, if not him getting benched in the 4th quarter of a game this year for being plain stupid.

 

[Street Knowledge]

You're speaking from a pure stats perspective. The Lakers weren't an inside-out team?

Where did I say they weren't an inside out team? I'm talking about the scoring loads, and the gap between Bryant and shaq

 

[YBE]

Did you even watch basketball during the threepeat? IT's funny how STATS are the only thing that matter now.

If that's true, then Lebron > Kobe and Wade, no argument right? BUt once that argument comes up, you c*nts switch to "5 rings!"

IT's been so many years, and you c*nts just keep shifting your arguments around to match the current circumstances.

If you base everything on your "stats" you'd see that Westbrook has the worst numbers, therefore is the most ... sidekickish?

However, if you look at the teams, BOTH THE HEAT AND LAKERS DID BETTER without Wade and Kobe, respectively. On the other hand, I will assure you that the thunder would do worse without Westbrook.

Does that say anything?

i know you're a troll.....so i wont take you seriously


1.....Bron doesn't have better stats than Kobe. It's a fallacy.

2.....the point of the thread.....everything yall hate about Kobe, applies to Wade & Westbrook. Even more since Kobe's numbers were higher as the "sidekick". Since we know those two don't get the same hate nor the same label, it has to be something else driving it

 

[Goatpoacher]

i know you're a troll.....so i wont take you seriously


1.....Bron doesn't have better stats than Kobe. It's a fallacy.

2.....the point of the thread.....everything yall hate about Kobe, applies to Wade & Westbrook. Even more since Kobe's numbers were higher as the "sidekick". Since we know those two don't get the same hate nor the same label, it has to be something else driving it

Let me explain how the basketball works! The team who scores more points, wins. It's not a series of 1v1 matchups.

Kobe's problem has always been his inability to recognize he SHOULD HAVE BEEN second fiddle to Shaq. On the other hand, D.Wade recognized he should let Lebron dominate this year.

That is why D.Wade >>> Kobe. And do you even know what a "fallacy" is? Please recognize your own stupidity and stop trying to sound intelligent.

 

[YBE]

Let me explain how the basketball works! The team who scores more points, wins. It's not a series of 1v1 matchups.

Kobe's problem has always been his inability to recognize he SHOULD HAVE BEEN second fiddle to Shaq. On the other hand, D.Wade recognized he should let Lebron dominate this year.

That is why D.Wade >>> Kobe. And do you even know what a "fallacy" is? Please recognize your own stupidity and stop trying to sound intelligent.

Fallacy
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.


You:

Did you even watch basketball during the threepeat? IT's funny how STATS are the only thing that matter now.

If that's true, then Lebron > Kobe and Wade, no argument right? BUt once that argument comes up, you c*nts switch to "5 rings!"

Reality:

Lebron's career up until now (9 seasons) looks alot similar to Kobe's first 9 seasons starting

Fallacy: seeing no problem about comparing Kobe's stats to Lebron's stats and including two years in which Kobe started only 7 games.

 

[Street Knowledge]

They won 3 straight titles together with shaq as the leading scorer

How is that not "deferring"?

 

[G.O.A.T]

What exactly is the argument of the thread? The only person that thinks D-Wade is the lead "batman" of this Heat squad is
Everyone else knows, like Wade has even said, that Bron is the #1 like Shaq was the #1 during the three peat years.

 

[CHICAGO]

playoff win shares during 3-peat

shaq: 12.3
kobe: 8.5

2000 finals

shaq: 38/17 (61 FG%)
kobe: 16/5/4 (37% FG%)




2001 finals

shaq: 33/16 (57 FG%)
kobe: 25/8/6 (42%)

2002 finals

shaq: 37/12 (60 FG%)
kobe: 27/6/5 (51 FG%)



lebron played like a sidekick in the finals last year.

YOU FORGOT ONE...
2004 FINALS
SHAQ: 27/11 (63 FG%)
KOBE: 23/4/3 (38 FG%)


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[NatiboyB]

WADE/BRON = THE FLASH/ Superman
Kobe/Shaq = Thanos/The Almighty
KD/Sabo = Batman/ Gambit

 

[Goatpoacher]

Fallacy
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.


You:



Reality:



Fallacy: seeing no problem about comparing Kobe's stats to Lebron's stats and including two years in which Kobe started only 7 games.

Take out those two years then. LEbron is still better. The numbers you posted SHOW LEBRON IS BETTER YOU ILLITERATE c*nt.

Your problem is not "fallacies" it's "Felatio." This is about the third time you've posted numbers that say the opposite of what you argue.

Take a look at secondary analysis of the empty stats you love so much anyway.

Hollinger's NBA Player Stats - ESPN Insider - National Basketball Association - ESPN

See, you stans have been crying about PER not making sense for years. THis is based on two problems.

1. YOu are too stupid to understand it
2. It does not support your conclusions, so it must be false.

However, if you had bothered to study any advanced statistics, you'd understand that people with IQ's higher than their waistlines (read: Not kobestans) NORMALIZE numbers to actually compare them in a meaningful way. To mangle a popular metaphor, they compare apples to oranges by studying nutritional content.

YOu may be asking "Why I, the sloppiest of vaginas, YBE, do not like this! HOw could this be!" Well just go fukk yourself. Lebron > Wade > Kobe according to the last few seasons. PERIOD.

 

[Bilz]

What a stupid fukking thread.

The reason no one is jumping up and calling Wade or Westbrook a "sidekick" is because no one is in here trying to say Wade or Westbrook is the best player in the league when they're not even the best player on their own team.

If OKC wins the title and someone tries to say that Westbrook or Harden is better than Kobe because their team won the title and Kobe's didn't, YBE will be the first one to start crying and making a bunch of bullshyt threads, even though he's guilty of being at the opposite end of that argument for years now.

 

[YBE]

Take out those two years then. LEbron is still better. The numbers you posted SHOW LEBRON IS BETTER YOU ILLITERATE c*nt.

Your problem is not "fallacies" it's "Felatio." This is about the third time you've posted numbers that say the opposite of what you argue.

Take a look at secondary analysis of the empty stats you love so much anyway.

Hollinger's NBA Player Stats - ESPN Insider - National Basketball Association - ESPN

See, you stans have been crying about PER not making sense for years. THis is based on two problems.

1. YOu are too stupid to understand it
2. It does not support your conclusions, so it must be false.

However, if you had bothered to study any advanced statistics, you'd understand that people with IQ's higher than their waistlines (read: Not kobestans) NORMALIZE numbers to actually compare them in a meaningful way. To mangle a popular metaphor, they compare apples to oranges by studying nutritional content.

YOu may be asking "Why I, the sloppiest of vaginas, YBE, do not like this! HOw could this be!" Well just go fukk yourself. Lebron > Wade > Kobe according to the last few seasons. PERIOD.

that looks pretty even to me

You're way more angry then you should be...

 

[Goatpoacher]

You're way more angry then you should be...[/quote]

You are more alive [U]than [/U]you should be. Not upstairs, though. Lebron's numbers are better, even without normalizing. When you actually dig into the numbers, they look even better. His PER this year was 30.80. KObe was #17 at 21.95.

Wade was #3.

 

[Malta]

that looks pretty even to me

You're way more angry then you should be...

Bron's are better, how they look pretty even is beyond me.