Who was more of a sidekick?

[Street Knowledge]

playoff win shares during 3-peat

shaq: 12.3
kobe: 8.5

2000 finals

shaq: 38/17 (61 FG%)
kobe: 16/5/4 (37% FG%)




2001 finals

shaq: 33/16 (57 FG%)
kobe: 25/8/6 (42%)

2002 finals

shaq: 37/12 (60 FG%)
kobe: 27/6/5 (51 FG%)



lebron played like a sidekick in the finals last year.

You do know Kobe was injured in the 00' finals right?

 

[NYC Rebel]

the Kobe hate has a long history among these posters bruh....going all the way back to the other site.

Only an idiot would call Kobe a bum sidekick.

 

[King Jove]

who ever called kobe a bum sidekick?

the general consensus is shaq was the best player on the team but kobe still pulled his weight at times.

and wade has been getting shytted on all playoffs.

 

[Absolut]

no one called kobe a bum. when you arent good at forming a basis for your argument, and just want to stir shyt up you make up stuff like that as one of your counter points to act like you have the upper hand in the debate

 

[YBE]

I provided hard stats. You provided conjecture & bias.

I already have the upper hand

at nikkas never calling Kobe a sidekick. There's a thousand threads at SOHH on this.

 

[threattonature]

Look at the players respective MVP rankings during the course of those seasons.

Shaq getting the MVP in the Finals as well as the regular season when the duo of Shaq and Kobe were established shows just who ran the show.

It's AMAZING to me that people are now making the dynasty a matter of it being equal parts Shaq and Kobe when during its heyday, it was clearly Shaq's team.

WTF?

During the first championship it was definitely Shaq option 1 and Kobe option 2. But by the last two championships they were options 1 and 1a with both carrying the team for stretches at a time. Shaq was looked at as the better player but there was more and more talk of Kobe being at least just as important. Especially as the role players around them got worse and worse.

 

[Absolut]

he was a sidekick. to shaquille fukking o neal. if that equals "bum" to you, then you are just an idiot. but when 0.1 rebounds and 1 more point in 4 more minutes of basketball is a large discrepancy between 2 players, then you being an idiot is already clearly evident

 

[King Jove]

at nikkas never calling Kobe a sidekick. There's a thousand threads at SOHH on this.

sidekick =/= bum sidekick

 

[YBE]

suddently nikkas never shytted on Kobe now that they realize it means they have to shyt on Wade too

this thread had 73 pages.....want to guess what most of the posts consisted of?

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[NYC Rebel]

suddently nikkas never "shytted" on Kobe now that they realize it means they have to shyt on Wade too

this thread had 73 pages.....want to guess what the topic was?

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So this thread is about "shytters of Kobe's past?" now, or him being the obvious number two that you're now making equals to Shaq?

 

[YBE]

2001 Playoffs

Shaq 30.4 PPG
Kobe 29.4 PPG

2002 Playoffs
Shaq-28.6 PPG
Kobe-26.6 PPG

2011 Playoffs

Bron 23.7 PPG
Wade 24.5 PPG

2012 Playoffs (so far)

Bron 31 PPG
Wade 23 PPG



I just wanna know if all the bullshyt written about Kobe over the years applies to Wade now as well....

no answer

 

[Mic-Nificent]

And Shaq made games blowouts....so what's your point?

So did Kobe....Kobe consistently destroyed San Antonio during his run with Shaq.

 

[NYC Rebel]

no answer

Those points coming from the low blocks with Shaq opened up the lanes for Kobe.

Why are you acting as if the Lakers weren't an inside out team where the wing players benefitted from Shaq's presences as opposed to it being equal?

Watch sports man...stop changing the past.

 

[Street Knowledge]

no answer

one of smallest gaps between "lead dog" and "sidekick" in history(1 PPG in 01')

For example Kobe and Gasol in the 09' Playoffs

Kobe 30 PPG
Pau 19 PPG

11 PPG Gap

 

[NYC Rebel]

one of smallest gaps between "lead dog" and "sidekick" in history(1 PPG in 01')

For example Kobe and Gasol in the 09' Playoffs

Kobe 30 PPG
Pau 19 PPG

11 PPG Gap

You're speaking from a pure stats perspective. The Lakers weren't an inside-out team?