"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

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in what way is today's game more compeitive than the game 10 years ago? id actually would love to hear this lol

and talent thing isnt even debateable lol
U have to be blind to not see it.

Do yourself a favor and look up all 30 NBA rosters in the league in 2009 and compare it to those of today. Look at these rosters 1-15.

Matter of fact just do the Cavs and Knicks in 2009 and 2022.

The game is also more competitive and there’s more parity this season compared to 2009. The league is more balanced. I mean you have to be blind to not see that.
 
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U have to be blind to not see it.

Do yourself a favor and look up all 30 NBA rosters in the league in 2009 and compare it to those of today. Look at these rosters 1-15.

Matter of fact just do the Cavs and Knicks in 2009.

The game is also more competitive and there’s more parity this season compared to 2009. The league is more balanced. I mean you have to be blind to not see that.
10-12 years ago
the league had more talent than now
most of da players who are hoopin now (durant lebron, etc) were still hoopin back then, we lost kobe, dirk, wade, pierce, garnett, duncan, prime dwight howard, tony parker etc during that time span.

that level of talent has not been replaced
 

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the league had more talent than now
most of da players who are hoopin now (durant lebron, etc) were still hoopin back then, we lost kobe, dirk, wade, pierce, garnett, duncan, prime dwight howard, tony parker etc during that time span.

that level of talent has not been replaced
You’re so wrong bro. Lol you just jacking your era or one that had more players you’re familiar with that’s all it is.

Also you just listing off names instead of analyzing rosters top to bottom leaguewide.
 

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the league had more talent than now
most of da players who are hoopin now (durant lebron, etc) were still hoopin back then, we lost kobe, dirk, wade, pierce, garnett, duncan, prime dwight howard, tony parker etc during that time span.

that level of talent has not been replaced
Bro, we’re seeing shyt in todays game, we’ve legit never seen… Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Steph and I’ll even throw in Ja and Zion are damn near aliens compared to that era. Guys like Tatum and Booker are more comparable to the greats guys you listed but the talent level is substantial today. Top to bottom. There are no “hopeless franchises” like there were back then. Even the sorry teams have really intriguing blue chip guys that you want to watch. I think you’re comparing the output of those guys (which doesn’t make sense) while we’re speaking strictly talent.

All the proof you need is that the league is actively trying to expand and they could comfortably do it cause there’s more than enough decent talent in the g league and overseas to put on the end of benches. You wouldn’t even dream of that 10-15 years ago.
 

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Melo is one of the most overrated players of his generation. Get over it, losers :umad:
 

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I agree that the Knicks would be better by a decent amount right now. But I don't think they'd be contenders and I'd be worried as hell about the FO threading the needle to get us over the hump without cap space or picks.

Granted, the Cavs have looked good against EVERYONE so far. I'm just agnostic on their success carrying over into the postseason. It might work, but I've gotta see it to believe it. I still think Milwaukee (any time Middleton plays) and Boston are head and shoulders ahead of the rest of the East. Philly, Cleveland, and Brooklyn are the teams I think could make a run but I don't trust them for different reasons.

I'll be happy to eat crow is Mitchell pulls off the unthinkable. I love his game.
Realistically I don't see any player that could become available that gets us closer to contention than Mitchell. shyt it's no guarantee we ever get a player of Mitchell's caliber we've never had anything like him. So I never liked the whole "doesn't make us a contender" thinking. I see the NBA as wide open right now. The Knicks fans are wishing on a star literally I don't know what player y'all are waiting to draft or trade for. I still think Knicks fans in order to rationalize this move not happening tend to underrate what Mitchell would have had to work with had we gotten him and dismiss how things could have possibly gelled.

People sleeping on the Cavs I'm assuming because they have some young inexperienced players. I'm not worried at all about Mitchell in the playoffs and I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs can beat Boston or Milwaukee. They match up well with both teams, have already beaten both teams during the season, and neither team is really infallible just because they made Finals runs. They not the Warriors in this era where its been a serious uphill battle for teams to put them away. Both the Bucks and Celtics have taken their playoff exists over the years. Cavs had more problems with Brooklyn.
 

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Realistically I don't see any player that could become available that gets us closer to contention than Mitchell. shyt it's no guarantee we ever get a player of Mitchell's caliber we've never had anything like him. So I never liked the whole "doesn't make us a contender" thinking. I see the NBA as wide open right now. The Knicks fans are wishing on a star literally I don't know what player y'all are waiting to draft or trade for. I still think Knicks fans in order to rationalize this move not happening tend to underrate what Mitchell would have had to work with had we gotten him and dismiss how things could have possibly gelled.

People sleeping on the Cavs I'm assuming because they have some young inexperienced players. I'm not worried at all about Mitchell in the playoffs and I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs can beat Boston or Milwaukee. They match up well with both teams, have already beaten both teams during the season, and neither team is really infallible just because they made Finals runs. They not the Warriors in this era where its been a serious uphill battle for teams to put them away. Both the Bucks and Celtics have taken their playoff exists over the years. Cavs had more problems with Brooklyn.
nikka… you be the main one underrating our guys :russ:
 

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nikka… you be the main one underrating our guys :russ:
That's cap.

I like Brunson campaigned for him to be signed argued with cats up and down on here that he was worth over $20M a season.

I like Quickley, Grimes and Toppin. Quickley in particular is one player I've been trying to tell y'all is way better than most of this fanbase even realizes.

I'm high on I-Hart.

The only people I'm really down on is them Duke nikkas especially the one with the 9 on his back :scust:

I think Mitchell's leadership and the offensive impact he brings would have helped Cam out along with having a defined role and ample playing time perhaps he could have been serviceable at SF. I know he isn't worse than Lamar Stevens and Isaac Okoro and even LeVert when he is having one of his W.O.A.T. nights/poor stretches.

It's no telling how we would gel here, the camaraderie that would be built here, I think we had enough talent to be a top 5 team in the East with Mitchell with us this season with a window for a some seasons in a wide open era of the NBA. It beats whatever the hell it is we are doing or y'all waiting for.
 
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