"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

[Kaydigi]

I'm so happy for the Cavs.

I'm happy for Knicks fans who want the acknowledgment that they were right about Donovan Mitchell's impact.

I'm happy that we know Ainge was never going to let NY and Donovan have a happy ending by taking the Cavs trade ans effectively took Utah out of the Wemby tank wars.

I'm happy that we could probably shut the fukk up about Donovan at this point because nothing new can be said.


IT'S 2023 NOW, let's enjoy what we have now

I'm happy Julius is back to 2021 form and has only the 52nd biggest contact in the NBA.

I'm happy Brunson his HIM for NY.

I'm happy Grimes is showing true impact.

I'm happy RJ has started to figure some things out.

I'm haply Mitch Robinson has similar numbers this year as Gobert


Let's fukking go, Knickas.

You left out the Knicks City Dancers being bad as hell also ….wattba

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

I think it's close between Melo's peak and the way Spida is playing rn, and I'm giving the edge to Spida, but then again I'm comparing the first few months of play this season to a longer body of work from Melo, so it's probably premature of me to even say that. Also Melo probably would beast even more in today's league; now offenses have more counters against aggressive ball screen defense, defenses practically give the midrange away, ball screens have replaced a lot of the iso-ing that used to happen, so he's expending less energy to get open, and touch fouls are even more prominent now; all of that would have Melo eating like never before.

After thinking about it through this post, I actually take that back, Melo is still better .

 

[seemorecizzy]

Not trading for him will be an eternal L.

not drafting him is an eternal l.
but he hasn't accomplished anything career wise for us to be stressing over him like that lol

going life and death against jamal murray and losing doesnt scream supestar to me. and they also just lost as favourites in da first round last year. the guy can ball, but hopefully we can use our assets on someone better or sign someone straight up

 

[RickyGQ]

Y’all severely underrated son kept telling y’all boys he different

I could only imagine if we had him, and were able to keep Grimes+IQ, with the way Julius is balling.

I still disagree. The argument wasn’t if he was good, we all agreed he’s a top 15 player at LEAST. The argument was would clearing the cupboard for him make us a contender and even you agreed it wouldn’t but you do it anyway. Now I respect that stance, but I still disagree.


In the moment it’s really hard though

 

[seemorecizzy]

I think it's close between Melo's peak and the way Spida is playing rn, and I'm giving the edge to Spida, but then again I'm comparing the first few months of play this season to a longer body of work from Melo, so it's probably premature of me to even say that. Also Melo probably would beast even more in today's league; now offenses have more counters against aggressive ball screen defense, defenses practically give the midrange away, ball screens replaced iso-ing so he's expending less energy to get open, and touch fouls are even prominent now; all of that would have Melo eating like never before.

After thinking about it through this post, I actually take that back, Melo is still better .

ppl are forgettin that prime carmelo anthony was going head to head with prime kobe bryant in da playoffs and holding his own. Him vs lebron was prime time games for da first 10 years of his career lol he wasnt quite on there level but he showed he belonged and thats with no running mate.

he also came over here and won 54 games with jr smith (who came off da bench) as a second option lmao ppl severely underrate what he brought to the table and da numbers he was puttin up when defense was still a thing.

mitchell isn't in that company. he's just a dope scorer and a entertaining player. but there's levels

 

[ISO]

I love Melo but he wasn’t that dominant being cool really goes a long way man.

 

[storyteller]

The Cavs roster after trading for Mitchell >>> What the Knicks would have been left with.

I don't have this Cavs team as a contender. They're really good, but I've got 5 teams ahead of them comfortably and another few that are debatable. The Cavs still gotta tighten a few things up to be a true contender even with Mitchell, and the Knicks would need even more...Idk that I'd trust this FO or any of the Knicks' recent FOs to use limited options and create a contender with what they'd have had left over.

This FO has been carried by its scouts. Take away their picks and most of their signings and trades have been mid or straight up backfired.

 

[ISO]

ppl are forgettin that prime carmelo anthony was going head to head with prime kobe bryant in da playoffs and holding his own. Him vs lebron was prime time games for da first 10 years of his career lol he wasnt quite on there level but he showed he belonged and thats with no running mate.

he also came over here and won 54 games with jr smith (who came off da bench) as a second option lmao ppl severely underrate what he brought to the table and da numbers he was puttin up when defense was still a thing.

mitchell isn't in that company. he's just a dope scorer and a entertaining player. but there's levels

Who cares? Lol why is Melo getting props because of the era he faced and who he competed against and lost to. U think Mitchell isn't capable of going up head to head against those guys? Melo had a running mate his name was Chauncey Billups who was actually the most impactful player on those Denver teams.

 

[mvp_status]

yall mad miserable arguing between a player who's not even on this team & a player who has suited up for NY in over 5 years

 

[ISO]

I think it's close between Melo's peak and the way Spida is playing rn, and I'm giving the edge to Spida, but then again I'm comparing the first few months of play this season to a longer body of work from Melo, so it's probably premature of me to even say that. Also Melo probably would beast even more in today's league; now offenses have more counters against aggressive ball screen defense, defenses practically give the midrange away, ball screens have replaced a lot of the iso-ing that used to happen, so he's expending less energy to get open, and touch fouls are even more prominent now; all of that would have Melo eating like never before.

After thinking about it through this post, I actually take that back, Melo is still better .

It's not close Melo never did any of this shyt. He was not on Mitchell's level as a shooter, driver, or playmaker.

Y'all gotta stop glorifying the past their careers aren't even that far apart.

Melo high scoring games pale in comparison to his own peers like Durant, LeBron, and Kobe.

 

[ISO]

im just gonna say that this is an entirely different league then it was even 10 years ago and a lot of da numbers you are seeing (not just spida's) are inflated because no ones playing defense and its very easy to score.

if you put a prime carmelo anthony in todays league, spida being better than him wouldnt even be a thought in your mind lol

and he's not a more explosive scorer than prime carmelo anthony lol you need hit up you tube my guy, melo's one of da best scorer's with one of da best bags ever. His peers understand that more than fans because the media and fans have built certain narratives about him.


it's actually borderline disrespectful to even say something like that lol

He's not better. Melo was a defense deficient ball stopper who applied little rim pressure he was primarily a jump shooter with us. He didn't have Mitchell's dual impact as a scorer and playmaker.

Mitchell's playing style is just flat out more effective.

 

[seemorecizzy]

He's not better. Melo was a defense deficient ball stopper who applied little rim pressure he was primarily a jump shooter with us. He didn't have Mitchell's dual impact as a scorer and playmaker.

Mitchekl s playing style is just flat out more effective.

lmao
Spida hasn't even made a all nba team brother
pump da breaks on his hof ceremony lol

 

[ISO]

The Cavs roster after trading for Mitchell >>> What the Knicks would have been left with.

I don't have this Cavs team as a contender. They're really good, but I've got 5 teams ahead of them comfortably and another few that are debatable. The Cavs still gotta tighten a few things up to be a true contender even with Mitchell, and the Knicks would need even more...Idk that I'd trust this FO or any of the Knicks' recent FOs to use limited options and create a contender with what they'd have had left over.

This FO has been carried by its scouts. Take away their picks and most of their signings and trades have been mid or straight up backfired.

It's wild y'all are still justifying this. U are underrating what we would have left and Mitchell's ability to raise the floor of a team.

The Cavs are 10 games over .500 and they've had their fair share of injuries. They have Lamar Stephens starting games at SF who isn't on Cam Reddish level. LeVert is more inconsistent than Fournier. Julius has been fantastic and you are underrating the impact the two headed snake of Brunson and Mitchell would put on opposing defenses.

 

[ISO]

lmao
Spida hasn't even made a all nba team brother
pump da breaks on his hof ceremony lol

shyt doesn't matter arbitrary circumstantial era dependent accomplishment

Off the eye test Mitchell is better has more athleticism, skills, is a better leader and has a playing style more conducive to impact and winning.

 

[seemorecizzy]

It's not close Melo never did any of this shyt. He was not on Mitchell's level as a shooter, driver, or playmaker.

Y'all gotta stop glorifying the past their careers aren't even that far apart.

Melo high scoring games pale in comparison to his own peers like Durant, LeBron, and Kobe.

the point is, those are his peers and his compeition. those 3 have all documented how great and impossible to guard he is. those are 3 legit top 10 players ever. not being better than them is okay.

donovon mitchell was gettin outplayed by jalen brunson in da playoffs last year and couldnt out duel jamal murray lol. you overrating the hell out of this man