White People Didn't Steal Rock.

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This is what happens when you don't know your history and dont pass your true history on effectively. I truly believe that what the O/P is doing right now could very well be done by someone to hip hop 50 years from now.

Think about what's popular right now, that's what the history of this era will be taught as. It doesn't matter that most of the people buying the albums are white people that don't know shyt about the culture of the music and that most nikkas don't even listen to the bullshyt that is at the top of the charts (Macklemore, Eminem, Drake, the jewish white kid Etc.). What will be taught is that first Eminem won grammies then Drake then Macklemore and that they ushered in a new era of hip hop.

It's sad really, cause even if this post should happen to ring true to you.....what exactly are you going to do differently to change the way things are?
Op is already an established fukking idiot running around sucking beyonces clit like he on the payroll writing 4 page letters and sealing it with a kiss ass fakkit nikka probably not even black.

Probably a cac from st0rmfr0nt. :pacspit:
 

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Who gives a fukk about who stole or created what. Rock music is garbage anyways, you fellas on here need to do you and not be so worried about every little detail and what others think
 
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Breh the difference is hip-hop has never denied using sampling to create something new. Led Zepplien the Rolling stones and there fans act as if they created new music of thin air

Like the other dude said....you're mixing up the white artists with their ignorant-ass fans

The majority of white rock artists I've seen who were influenced by black artists have PROUDLY cited them as influences

Hell, most white rockers today talk about Jimi Hendrix like he was God. He's their undisputed GOAT guitar player. You'd think white people would try to force some white guitar player in that top spot, but the majority of them don't
 

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This post is full of misinformation:mindblown:


It was never "black"..

Rock and Rock n Roll are interchangable words to describe the same music. The first music known as "Rock N Roll" was Rhythm and blues. The white Dj, Alan Freed rebranded R&B as "Rock and Roll" (a term used in the black community for sex at that time and can be heard all over blues and R&B songs of the period) to obscure the racial origins of the music he was playing to white audiences. Read below..



A little history on why Alan Freed changed it from R&B to "Rock and Roll"


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Alan Freed


"Wednesday marks the 60th anniversary of a seminal event in rock 'n' roll - and radio - history. It involves Alan Freed, the Cleveland DJ credited with coining the very phrase "rock 'n' roll."

The story is best told by his son, music publisher Lance Freed. His dad, he recalls, did a nightly program, "The Moondog Show," on WJW, playing "race" records - that is, R&B. Back in 1952, he says, "he was the only white disc jockey playing music created by blacks on a white-owned station." His father, he adds, came to call the music rock 'n' roll "as a way to put a new face on the stigma of music created largely by black artists. He took the phrase from the records he was playing, with lyrics such as 'Rock me baby, roll me baby, all night long.' 'Rock 'n' roll' was a known euphemism, in the black community, for sex. But to the public, 'rock 'n' roll' became the name for a mysterious new genre of music."

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...ed-DJ-who-staged-1st-rock-concert-3410266.php


Disc jockey Alan Freed was born Albert James Freed on December 21, 1921 in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. In highschool, he played the trombone in a jazz band called The Sultans Of Swing. In college, he developed an interest in radio, and in 1942 Freed landed his first broadcasting job, at WKST , in New Castle, PA. He took a sportscasting position at WKBN (Youngstown, OH) the following year and in 1945, he moved to WAKR (Akron, OH) and became a local favourite, playing hot jazz and pop recordings.

In 1949 Freed moved to WXEL-TV in Cleveland, and later to WJW radio. It was while there that a local record store owner named Leo Mintz convinced him to emcee a program of rhythm & blues records and on July 11, 1951, calling himself "Moondog," Freed went on the air. Playing rhythm-and-blues for an audience that consisted primarily of white teenagers was something new and exciting for his young audience and it caught on quickly

Freed would wait until 1:00 AM when he thought the station manager was asleep to play some of the music he selected. In the music business in the 1950's, it was a common practice for a white artist to cover a song that had originally been recorded by a black artist. Many of Pat Boone's early recordings were such covers. Alan Freed made a lot of enemies in the music business by refusing to play the white singers versions.

Alan Freed is often credited with coining the term "rock and roll" to describe the rhythm-and-blues records he played, however that expression had been around for years among the black musicians of the day. The phrase "rockin' and rollin'" referred to having sex, as in " we were rockin' and rollin' ". Freed, however, attached the term to the music he played on his radio program and soon, his listeners were using the phrase too.


http://www.classicbands.com/alanfreed.html



"In 1949 he moved to Cleveland for WXEL-TV. He was shortly back on radio, however, as he played rhythm and blues records on WJW radio, calling himself "Moondog". His show was called the Moondog Rock 'n' Roll Party, and programmed black rhythm and blues music for a predominently white teenage audience. The term Rock 'n' Roll would continue to be used by Freed for what was then rhythm and blues, and the term would eventually catch on. He called it that because he said "It seemed to suggest rolling, surging beat of the music." Credited as the first "rock concert" was the 1952 Moondog Coronation Ball, though it was closed when the Cleveland Arena was overrun by about twice its 10,000 person capacity.

http://www.oocities.org/heartland/4547/freed.html










Whites stole rockabilly and that's where the confusion comes in.

No...they invented Rockabilly which is shorthand for "Rock" ( Rythm and Blues, Jump Blues, Guitar Blues, some Jazz) and "Hillbilly" (Country & Western).

Rockabilly is basically the product of whites who were bored of old style Country music that liked the modern sounds of hard shuffling and the hard driving backbeat of Rythm and Blues so they mixed the two.





Rockabilly definitely influenced the British invasion but white people themselves innovated to what made it popular.

The biggest American influence on the British Invasion hands down was Blues


Please someone show me where black people in mass were making the rock music we are referring to. You can't because we weren't making it. Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry are rockabilly artists and that's where your Elvis' come from and Carl Perkins.

:heh:

Big Joe Turner was a jump blues/R&B/Earl Rock and Roll performer, not Rockabilly. Chuck Berry was R&B-Electric Guitar Blues musician who unlike, Big Joe Turner, did perform Rockabilly with a song like "Maybellene"





This is R&B...the exact type of music Alan Freed first rebranded as "Rock n Roll"




That is Rockabilly, Blues/R&B + Country and Western. This below is Electric Blues based R&B





Hendrix had to leave and reintroduce himself.

he had to because by the time he came along, Rock N Roll had became synonymous with "white music" and he wouldn't have a gotten fair shake as a black musician.



Watch this clip and learn:lawd:


 

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It was never "black"..Whites stole rockabilly and that's where the confusion comes in. Rockabilly definitely influenced the British invasion but white people themselves innovated to what made it popular. Please someone show me where black people in mass were making the rock music we are referring to. You can't because we weren't making it. Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry are rockabilly artists and that's where your Elvis' come from and Carl Perkins.





Hendrix had to leave and reintroduce himself. It's like Bob Marley. Eric Clapton introduced him to American audiences. Black people didn't get hip until Clapton made "I Shot the Sherriff"..


A scene from the new documentary, “Marley,” shows an all-white crowd gathered to watch Jamaican reggae artist Bob Marley perform in the U.S. in the late 1970s. Even though Marley was influenced by American rhythm and blues artists, his own music was slow to catch on with African-Americans during his lifetime.

“He had issue with it,” Marley’s son Ziggy Marley told “Nightline,” “because he wanted African-Americans to hear his message.”

Yeh your mom and pops might have put ya'll on Marley but they probably only got hip after Clapton introduced it. Black people were into soul and from there came funk and R&B..Our parents weren't listening to no Lou Reed, CCR. It was Stevie Wonder, O'Jays, etc.

Disgusting not only did black people invent rock they advanced it. Most of you're white rock gods are know plagiarizers.

Funny u mention clapton who spoke ill of black people but plagiarised bob. Zepellin was accused of stealing riffs too. There was endless plagiarism from black artists with no consequences in those days and thus idiots like you today can spoute such nonsense.
 
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no, they're usually referring tot he fact that white bands would redo a song COMPLETELY, a 100%, no changes cover except whiter and less "threatening" to the average listener (at least in the eyes of the label heads & parents) so the black version of the song was ignored or people didn't even know it existed, therefore people didn't know of the talent that was around making these songs.
They redid whole songs did not credit their sources and also stole song ideas parts and melodies.

But years latter we got revisionists like op talking this thrash :heh:
 
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