White People Didn't Steal Rock.

[ThaRealness]

Im confused. So you're saying black folks don't deserve the title of creators of rock music because white people formed it into Metal? Or are you saying black folks created it but white folks took it and ran with it and black musicians cant take credit for what rock and roll has become?

Artistic stealing (in most cases) benefits both parties

 

[Calmye]

Artistic stealing (in most cases) benefits both parties

The CaC thought process man

 

[aRoMaN21]

Artistic stealing (in most cases) benefits both parties

I dont agree. Alicia Keys stole chopin and mozart sections frm pieces and incorporated it into her songs.

i dont see them estates benefiting

 

[Kitsune]

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IIIN MYYYYYYY SKIIIIIIIIN

 

[DaveyDave]

I dont agree. Alicia Keys stole chopin and mozart sections frm pieces and incorporated it into her songs.

i dont see them estates benefiting

pretty sure Mozart etc are public domain these days, i don't think there is an estate for royalties to go to in the first place.

 

[aRoMaN21]

pretty sure Mozart etc are public domain these days, i don't think there is an estate for royalties to go to in the first place.

If someone can claim lineage to those artists, they can sue her for royalties.

 

[aRoMaN21]

SO did this genre of music that OP is posting about, did it start in BRITAIN or AMERICA?

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[aRoMaN21]

nas stole from beethoven

I think he had to pay for the FUr elise clearance though

 

[DaveyDave]

If someone can claim lineage to those artists, they can sue her for royalties.

from what i've heard, copyright laws expire after 99 years or something so if you're descended from Mozart or not, it's been too long. otherwise every orchestra in the world would have to pay royalties & be getting sued left & right

 

[aRoMaN21]

from what i've heard, copyright laws expire after 99 years or something so if you're descended from Mozart or not, it's been too long. otherwise every orchestra in the world would have to pay royalties & be getting sued left & right

thanx for the info. i didnt know that

 

[ThaRealness]

The CaC thought process man

You dont even understand what Im saying. What Pat Boone, Elvis etc did wasnt artistic stealing... that was just theivery. Because they didnt add anything new, they just repackaged Rock & Roll to white america.

But what Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones did was expand on The Blues. As an artist I feel like youve gotta be flattered when someone expands on your own musical ideas. They are contributing as well, so its not just theivery.. And if they are moving music forward... that furthers your own musical legacy.

Anyways, you cant discredit 60s & 70s rock without inadvertently making the same argument for hip hop.

 

[Calmye]

You dont even understand what Im saying. What Pat Boone, Elvis etc did wasnt artistic stealing... that was just theivery. Because they didnt add anything new, they just repackaged Rock & Roll to white america.

But what Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones did was expand on The Blues. As an artist I feel like youve gotta be flattered when someone expands on your own musical ideas. They are contributing as well, so its not just theivery.. And if they are moving music forward... that furthers your own musical legacy.

Anyways, you cant discredit 60s & 70s rock without inadvertently making the same argument for hip hop.

Breh the difference is hip-hop has never denied using sampling to create something new. Led Zepplien the Rolling stones and there fans act as if they created new music of thin air

 

[aRoMaN21]

Theres a BIG difference btwn soft rokk and hard rokk... kinda like porn.

So what was the ORIGINAL subgenre of "rokk and roll" that was ALL white?

id say early metal

 

[ThaRealness]

Breh the difference is hip-hop has never denied using sampling to create something new. Led Zepplien the Rolling stones and there fans act as if they created new music of then air

Nah they gave respect where it was due for the most part. youre probably right about the fans though...