"White liberals are the most racist people"-Ben Carson

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Ugh. He may have just jumped the shark. Seems like the only thing worst than a white baby boomer is a black baby boomer.
 

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this whole liberal vs conservative shyt is getting on my last mufukkin nerve.
co-sign and people EAT IT UP. We can't get jack fukking shyt done in this country because it's always a personal battle between liberals and conservatives, because we have a retarded ass 2-party system. If we had proportional representation A LOT more varied parties would be represented as opposed to just 2.
 

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good guy, conservative, got gassed up, got into the ring and proceeded to leave all manner of openings for the other side to get their shots, politics at a prayer breakfast and calling teh gheys pedos and beastialists? thats just too easy, then going to talk radio and going off on blacks still being on plantations = dog whistle = blacks tuning you out on gp.

He needs better advisors, because the left dont play, even cain (former ceo) and R Money (son of guvnah, former ceo and guvnah) are caricutures of themselves, Newt held the 3rd highest position in gvt and had the huevos to orchestrate an impeachment of the potus, now he's just a fat slob with an airhead for a wife. The good Dr will fukk around with them fukk arounds and he'll fukk around and get ternt into Alan Keyes :birdman:
 

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Why do you guys keep making threads hating on this guy? Not all of his views are completely unfounded as your guys are implying.

This is sorta some groupthink sh1t - what's happening to Dr. Carson
 

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Why do you guys keep making threads hating on this guy? Not all of his views are completely unfounded as your guys are implying.

This is sorta some groupthink sh1t - what's happening to Dr. Carson
These views are though

Not comparing them but this is like saying "all Hitlers views were not bad, whats the big deal". Nobody's entire world view is bad
 

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thats fine, but if you read the publisher weekly quote, they do not accuse him of lying or fabricating anything

They call it a tabloid account and "backstairs gossip." By definition, both of those terms call its authenticity into question. People don't use those words for well-researched, substantiated accounts. And he himself doesn't have to lie or fabricate anything.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gossip
http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/english/tabloid

the user reviews dont mean anything i think its absurd to bring them up

What's more absurd is you trying to discount a clear majority of reviews that all say the same thing as the Publisher's Weekly review. You know why user reviews exist, right?

nobody has really challenged it and aside from amazon users no legit person has accused kessler of lying

Both the Publisher's Weekly review and most of the user reviews challenged it.

i dont know what you mean by character of th statement, aside from the fact that he used the word ****** i dont even see what the big deal is about the statement, the statement is simply the corollary to his other well known statement that democrats will lose the south for generations, its a pretty simple obvious political analyses

the quote in the youtube video is also simply a political analyses of the fact that blacks were voting on large numbers

im not sure how it is that you are characterizing the statement but i think its completely in line with how he talked, i fail to see how it is out of character for johnson to have made a statement like that

One is a matter of fact statement that happens to involve casual racial slurs, the other one is a cynical political statement (at least the way it was originally posted) that supports the idea that Democrats schemed to entice Blacks with policy that wasn't meant to help them. The latter claim is much stronger, and thus in need of more substantiation than the former.

well then whats the problem, at the end of the day its "gossip" from a legit investigative reporter, if you or anybody else has a problem with it you are welcome to sue in court, that is why the lawyers go over books like that and editors check sources

This wasn't an investigative journalist account. At this point you're just being obstinate. It's very possible, and just straight up true, that you can be an investigative journalist and write one or two pop gossip books that aren't consistent with your other works. I see you pointing to his other work as a way to evade what is very obviously different about this one when you directly and objectively look at it.

its totally possible that kessler or his source simply fabricated the quote out of thin air out of some vendetta against johnson, but its just not likely, it would be stupid of kessler to fabricate something like that

Kessler doesn't need to be the one fabricating. And now you're suggesting that it's "unlikely" for people to fabricate things about their political colleagues or former bosses? We both know that's a laughable claim. :comeon: Regardless, the rumor could also have started without direct fabrication, and have been reported by someone who heard it. There are many ways claims like these can emerge and spread.
 

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Well excuse me for caring whether a doctor believes in objective reality over fantasy. All objective scientific evidence tells us the earth is over 6000 years. The fact he's willing to look past all of that because of claims made a book written 2000 years ago by bronze age peasants is disturbing.

If he's willing to believe that then what else is he gonna believe. Maybe he won't follow treatment proven to be scientifically viable in favor of praying or some other religious crap.

So next time you or a family member needs surgery, have one of your genius atheist liberal friends preform it instead of the idiot Christian world renowned neurosurgeon. :smh:
 

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So next time you or a family member needs surgery, have one of your genius atheist liberal friends preform it instead of the idiot Christian world renowned neurosurgeon. :smh:

This is a logical fallacy... none of these things are mutually exclusive... just because someone is a brilliant doctor, that does not necessarily make them equipped to be an expert in any other field.
 

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Why do you guys keep making threads hating on this guy? Not all of his views are completely unfounded as your guys are implying.

This is sorta some groupthink sh1t - what's happening to Dr. Carson

There is a vested interest in maintaining blacks as a monolithic voting block, even by these so-called intellectuals of the board. It's really a pul-pit to obliterate any divergence of opinions on issues that goes against the cow towing of the party line.

Quite simply it's disgusting, and regressive to any type of meaningful discussion. I personally prefer city-data where there is far more balance and discourse.

Other than that I simply pop in once in a while for the fukkery :smugdraper:
 

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There is a vested interest in maintaining blacks as a monolithic voting block, even by these so-called intellectuals of the board. It's really a pul-pit to obliterate any divergence of opinions on issues that goes against the cow towing of the party line.

Quite simply it's disgusting, and regressive to any type of meaningful discussion. I personally prefer city-data where there is far more balance and discourse.

Other than that I simply pop in once in a while for the fukkery :smugdraper:

so would you support proprotional representation voting?

Proportional representation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Who cares what Johnson thought? All people are tribal by nature. Its only racism when there's a power structure attached to it. Johnson can call us all the ******s he wants to as long as he's signing legislation to weaken the racist power structure. Bigoted and distasteful? Sure. Racist? Not really.

...and for 8 yrs in the white house, they probably have a legitimate claim for another 200 yrs of loyalty (more like 50 yrs in today's entitlement culture)...we got in before the jews too :ooh:

Those puma's exposed themselves tho, which should be a warning to all you pawg luvahs :mjpls:

Her inability to beat Obama in 08 should also serve as a warning for Hillary 2016 or bust
 

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There is a vested interest in maintaining blacks as a monolithic voting block, even by these so-called intellectuals of the board. It's really a pul-pit to obliterate any divergence of opinions on issues that goes against the cow towing of the party line.

Quite simply it's disgusting, and regressive to any type of meaningful discussion. I personally prefer city-data where there is far more balance and discourse.

Other than that I simply pop in once in a while for the fukkery :smugdraper:

So basically what you're suggesting is that we blindly ride for Dr. C, and support his absurd, offensive, and laughably false statements, all in the name of promoting this undefined political diversity, which is really just transparent far right wing self-interest that we've collectively rejected in the first place.

I know you and your ilk are frustrated at the condition of conservative america, but instead of encouraging an accomplished man like Dr. C to act like a ventriloquist dummy for the anti-anything-but-white-male teabaggin express, why not challenge him to elevate a principled conservatism and discourse that can engage not enrage? Fck kind of offering is "the democrat plantation"? The right's stumbling attempt to grow their party, by only spotlighting black supporters who sound like Sean Hannity, is proving another humiliating fail. But of course, its our fault.
 

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They call it a tabloid account and "backstairs gossip." By definition, both of those terms call its authenticity into question. People don't use those words for well-researched, substantiated accounts. And he himself doesn't have to lie or fabricate anything.

Definition of gossip in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English)
Definition of tabloid in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English) (US)

but again they they do not accuse him of lying, they are very careful in what they say because they can get sued for lying and libel and kessler himself can get sued

by definition investigative journalists use iffy sources sometimes, just like woodward has been accused of the same thing, but at the end of the day nobody is suing people like woodward or kessler because publishers have lawyers and editors that go through all the claims

What's more absurd is you trying to discount a clear majority of reviews that all say the same thing as the Publisher's Weekly review. You know why user reviews exist, right?

user reviews exist for the same reason the coli exists, its a place where people can express their views, but a user review on amazon is not any more credible than you or any poster's opinion, you might as well say the majority of HL posters think it s a fabrication

One is a matter of fact statement that happens to involve casual racial slurs, the other one is a cynical political statement (at least the way it was originally posted) that supports the idea that Democrats schemed to entice Blacks with policy that wasn't meant to help them. The latter claim is much stronger, and thus in need of more substantiation than the former.

im not following why does one require more substantiation than the other one, they are both consistent with the way johnson was known to talk, and i i think you are confused, in both cases involved johnson trying to help black people in return for their votes, in fact in the youtube video he is saying that they cannot prove discrimination, so apparently he was trying to accuse texan republicans of blocking the black vote

so aside from him using the word ****** there isnt anything particularly racist about the statements, it just shows a white cynical a$$hole president from texas trying to win and cling on to power, the statement is very consistent with johnson

This wasn't an investigative journalist account. At this point you're just being obstinate. It's very possible, and just straight up true, that you can be an investigative journalist and write one or two pop gossip books that aren't consistent with your other works. I see you pointing to his other work as a way to evade what is very obviously different about this one when you directly and objectively look at it.

the fact is he is an investigative journalist, the fact that you dont like his quotes doesnt make him not an investigate journalist

im not avoiding anything, im using people's past writings to assert that this book is also credible, which is how you build credibility

Kessler doesn't need to be the one fabricating. And now you're suggesting that it's "unlikely" for people to fabricate things about their political colleagues or former bosses? We both know that's a laughable claim. Regardless, the rumor could also have started without direct fabrication, and have been reported by someone who heard it. There are many ways claims like these can emerge and spread.

im just pointing out the theoretical possibility that any book, not just kessler's can have fabricated quotes but at the end of the day anybody that thinks kessler is lying is more than welcome to sue in court
 

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His statement is pretty true, people just assume its malicious racism and it isnt.

Most liberals are misguided and don't realize their attempts at helping, or showing 'they care' end up doing more damage than good.
 
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