"White liberals are the most racist people"-Ben Carson

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Exactly my point people, his point can summarily be put in laymen's terms as "think as we do or die."

The fact that he is unable to extrapolate even a grain of agreement from Dr. Carson's observations speaks decibels. The fact that he continues to discourage any discourse in the divergence of opinions speaks even louder. And the fact that he's attempting to camouflage Dr. Carson's talking points by challenging his preconceived ideas of the parroted "principled conservatism" in an effort to take away from Dr. Carson's specific concerns is deafining. He has already instinctively wrapped his POV around challenging "principled conservatism" and the "anti anything but white male tea baggers" rhetoric to gain empathy and "daps." lol....talk about pit trained to lockjaw, I've seen virgins with loser grip than some of these characters.

It's simply disgusting, but as I said, I'm here for the fukkery...nothing more.

Your bizarre use of pro-form none withstanding, until Carson stops advocating a flat tax only because it mimics Jesus' tithes and not economically valid reason, until Carson stops trying to link beastality with homosexuality, until Carson stops calling others racist while aligned with the party of the anti-civil rights/southern strategy, until then he is going to be reduced to weak, whiny attempts like the above that beg for people to listen to him and nothing else. Basically, until he decides to take his own views seriously, dont expect anyone w/ an IQ over room temperature to take them seriously as well. Not surprisingly you post is a complete attack on me and my character, rather than providing any kind of justification for why Carson has a point on anything. Conservative way in a nutshell.
 

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:duck: The last 5 or 6 decades of economic data disagrees with you.

Exactly. Nothing the GOP says is based on truth. Sure I'm all for black folks "expressing their intellectual/political freedom" but there is absolutely no reason for a black man to support the GOP. Their policies are purposefully set up to hurt minorites, and even if you get by that fact, the positives that you could latch on to are all lies.
Better fiscally=a lie

Better defense=a lie

even the social conservatism/religion stuff is a lie when you find out half of them are cheating on their wives and buying prostitutes and shyt.

The GOP is the party of lies and racism. And you either have to be a liar or a racist to deny that fact.
 

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Your bizarre use of pro-form none withstanding, until Carson stops advocating a flat tax only because it mimics Jesus' tithes and not economically valid reason, until Carson stops trying to link beastality with homosexuality, until Carson stops calling others racist while aligned with the party of the anti-civil rights/southern strategy, until then he is going to be reduced to weak, whiny attempts like the above that beg for people to listen to him and nothing else. Basically, until he decides to take his own views seriously, dont expect anyone w/ an IQ over room temperature to take them seriously as well. Not surprisingly you post is a complete attack on me and my character, rather than providing any kind of justification for why Carson has a point on anything. Conservative way in a nutshell.

Nonsense, this isn't about Ben Carson per se, but simply your approach to shame and control the opinions of those who don't fall in line with you paternalism.

If you disagree with him--that's fine, but your effort to shame and control others to thinking as you do and minimalizing and reducing their opinions as being less-than or misinformed compared to your own is where I see the real damage coming from. :yeshrug:
 

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Exactly. Nothing the GOP says is based on truth. Sure I'm all for black folks "expressing their intellectual/political freedom" but there is absolutely no reason for a black man to support the GOP. Their policies are purposefully set up to hurt minorites, and even if you get by that fact, the positives that you could latch on to are all lies.
Better fiscally=a lie

Better defense=a lie

even the social conservatism/religion stuff is a lie when you find out half of them are cheating on their wives and buying prostitutes and shyt.

The GOP is the party of lies and racism. And you either have to be a liar or a racist to deny that fact.

And I think that's fine, thanks for sharing your views, and I also thank dr Carson for sharing his views

God bless America :ahh:

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:comeon: still trying to figure out if you're a liar, a racist, or just confused.

There is nothing to be confused about, I've been doing and saying the same thing for years which is the pushing for the intellectual development of the hip hop nation, and that involves intelectual freedom, so pardon me for not giving a fuk about partisan rants
 

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I'm not sure what that means, are you disputing my statement?
No, just pointing out how you knowingly or unknowingly adopted one of the classic conservative logical fallacies. It had all the hallmarks- racism, baseless slander of liberals and irrelevance to the point it was disputing.

If you want a dispute to your assertion though, and this ties in to your whole theory of success, look at the macroeconomic markers of liberal + conservative regions at large. Liberal areas are places on the coasts... NYC, LA, SF... you know, the cultural, financial, technological, educational centers of the country. What are the conservative analogues to these places? There aren't any. The red states are fatter, poorer, less educated and most ironically more dependent on the govt than the blue ones. Even in the red states, you look on a county per county basis, the major cities and educational hubs generally vote Democrat. So I dont think you want to play that game, friend. You can't take the worst segment of a group as representative of the whole, or attribute where black peopel are today solely to the embrace of liberal policy. By this logic all liberals would be in the same socioeconomic tough spots :troll:

"B-b-but what about Texas????" Thanks partially to the flight of outpriced coastal liberals and a booming Latino population, Texas AND Arizona are on the left's radar and are estimated to be turning blue in the next decade. This isn't an endorsement of the left or an indicator of some permanent shift... there was a time not long ago that the whole country voted Republican, federally. But its just a rebuttal to your seemingly endless parade of logical fallacies and Republican boot licking.
 

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There is nothing to be confused about, I've been doing and saying the same thing for years which is the pushing for the intellectual development of the hip hop nation, and that involves intelectual freedom, so pardon me for not giving a fuk about partisan rants
Stop with this hip hop nation bullshyt. You dont give a fukk about hip hop, you dont practice in any of its elements, and you vilify the very type of people who invented and participate in it. You post links to KRS-1, but demonize high school dropouts and rappers- two things KRS is. Get the fukk out of here with this hip hop nation bullshyt, its just a crutch to hide behind to throw shade and hate at black culture.
 

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What fiscal accomplishments has the GOP achieved in the last 30, 40, 50 years

The GOP hadn't had a hit in decades. Even their modern god Reagan was a damn RINO. He introduced big federal deficits, expanded govt, eroded civil rights. He just did it under the guise of racism and corporate greed, so conservatives bought into it. And they know this. Conservatism in America ends with rhetoric, they haven't accomplished anything in decades

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:duck: The last 5 or 6 decades of economic data disagrees with you.

I'd love to hear how Austrian school, anti-keynesian, neo-liberal economic policies, and social enforcement of those policies have been anything but a disaster for the black community, and the working class in general. Thats why the right has to constantly pull these stunts and political clown shows ---its an attempt to try to intimidate blacks in accepting their way of governance w/ no strings attached.

Conservatives know they dont have an empirically backed leg to stand on when it comes to their policies, so they trot out house boys like this to try to convince black people they dont need the same type of governmental environment and assistance that white people themselves used to accrue wealth at black peoples expense for hundreds of years. Somehow a country that has been against our dignity and success since day one, should be trusted to naturally build our success, without legislative support, because somehow the free market always does whats right in the end.

If you honestly believe the sht they're trying to peddle, you need to go back to the drawing board.

:whoa: I dont want to turn this into an economic debate, cause capitalism is one of the most misunderstood concepts ever.

I will say that the low tax/get government out of the way model of the right is better economically than the high tax/raise minimum wage model of the left.

To answer the "should we trust" question, we shouldnt trust either side, we should trust in economic truths, and empirical evidence. Whichever side falls closer to that is the side im with.
 

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:whoa: I dont want to turn this into an economic debate, cause capitalism is one of the most misunderstood concepts ever.

I will say that the low tax/get government out of the way model of the right is better economically than the high tax/raise minimum wage model of the left.

To answer the "should we trust" question, we shouldnt trust either side, we should trust in economic truths, and empirical evidence. Whichever side falls closer to that is the side im with.

The problem is, they don't actually follow that ideology. It sounds good when they say it on TV, but if you look at their policies they are just as much about big goverment as democrats.
 

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No, just pointing out how you knowingly or unknowingly adopted one of the classic conservative logical fallacies. It had all the hallmarks- racism, baseless slander of liberals and irrelevance to the point it was disputing.

If you want a dispute to your assertion though, and this ties in to your whole theory of success, look at the macroeconomic markers of liberal + conservative regions at large. Liberal areas are places on the coasts... NYC, LA, SF... you know, the cultural, financial, technological, educational centers of the country. What are the conservative analogues to these places? There aren't any. The red states are fatter, poorer, less educated and most ironically more dependent on the govt than the blue ones. Even in the red states, you look on a county per county basis, the major cities and educational hubs generally vote Democrat. So I dont think you want to play that game, friend. You can't take the worst segment of a group as representative of the whole, or attribute where black peopel are today solely to the embrace of liberal policy. By this logic all liberals would be in the same socioeconomic tough spots :troll:

"B-b-but what about Texas????" Thanks partially to the flight of outpriced coastal liberals and a booming Latino population, Texas AND Arizona are on the left's radar and are estimated to be turning blue in the next decade. This isn't an endorsement of the left or an indicator of some permanent shift... there was a time not long ago that the whole country voted Republican, federally. But its just a rebuttal to your seemingly endless parade of logical fallacies and Republican boot licking.

"Thank you for your opinion, but all I'm saying is that Black people should be allowed to believe whatever they want, so I don't care about your partisan ranting."
 

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"Thank you for your opinion, but all I'm saying is that Black people should be allowed to believe whatever they want, so I don't care about your partisan ranting."
this is all i want, intellectual discourse, even if i disagree, you are free to do whatever you want, but the only way forward is through the right

 
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