"White liberals are the most racist people"-Ben Carson

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So Republicans didn't actively work to disenfranchise Black people for the last century?

century? :comeon:

:heh: breh are you smoking crack, republicans have spent the past few decades trying to disenfranchise blacks but for most of the past century it was democrats aka the party of jim crow that was oppressing and disfranchising blacks, but your naivete or ignorance is not surprising you are the same guy that needed verified proof that a good old boy from texas referred to black people as ******s

and i never said republicans werent disenfranchising, what i said is that black people have been accustomed to analyzing politics as victims

So Republicans shouldn't have to earn Black votes?

i have no idea what that means about earning votes, what i am saying is that the main goal of black people should be to dominate the GOP

So making a cynical, Faustian pact with an anti-Black institution that is much more powerful than Black people can somehow be a win?

yeah it can be a win, thats exactly what obama did, he made a faustian pact with a country and people that was founded on the oppression of the black race

i hate to break the news but by your very presence in this country and participating in its politics you are making a faustian bargain with devils

What part of domination is submitting yourself to the whims of a group that actively dislikes and outguns you?

i have no idea what you are talking about, i never said black people should submit to anybody , i said black people should try to dominate
 

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WoW. Are you black?

Not only did this senator's report relay these concerns in 1965(I'm sure you didn't even try to find it), but the proof is what you see in the so called black community today......Malcolm even spoke on this....

No actual proof to back it up...........WoW. That's amazing.

Point out a successful matriarchal society

Yes I'm black. And the idea that the black family structure is ruined and its a matriarchal society is bogus to me. It's something that I hear repeated on here a lot but its not substantiated by real life.

First off you'd have to prove that the black family structure is in fact ruined. And not just with the out of wedlock stat or wordlstarhiphop videos. Show me that black familys aren't producing succesful people in 2013.

Second you'd have to prove that social welfare actualy affects communities in a negative way. All over the world, including America, social welfare has helped pull people from poverty. But somehow you wanna say it perpetuates poverty for black people, and breaks up families.
 
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Yes I'm black. And the idea that the black family structure is ruined and its a matriarchal society is bogus to me. It's something that I hear repeated on here a lot but its not substantiated by real life.

First off you'd have to prove that the black family structure is in fact ruined. And not just with the out of wedlock stat or wordlstarhiphop videos. Show me that black familys aren't producing succesful people in 2013.

Second you'd have to prove that social welfare actualy affects communities in a negative way. All over the world, including America, social welfare has helped pull people from poverty. But somehow you wanna say it perpetuates poverty for black people, and breaks up families.

:wow:

Ok man
 

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White people generally suck. I agree with that. This liberal/conservative crap is what it is. Crap. Dumb Blacks who are getting behind this are ignorant. I ain't following no one who doesn't reflect my views. I don't care if they are a Black or White.
 

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But the GOP actively sought out to disenfranchise us to win elections. You turn a blind eye to blatant GOP racism under the auspice of "intellectual freedom"

yeah and thats simply a data point, i think the strategy of voting for the least racist will lead and is responsible for the current intellectual and economic stagnation in the black community, most black political leaders today all they do is regurgitate the democratic party platform and marxist gibberish about social equality or affirmative action programs

ive never turned a blind eye to GOP racism, so i dont know what you are talking about, but i do disagree with the strategy of voting for the least racist because i question the economic strategy of the democratic party and i question their stances on school choice and immigration

and any black people who vote for them being weak or scared. And then have the nerve to claim impartiality/ neutrality. Come on fam.

if you vote for democrats because you honestly believe they have the right policies, i think thats fine, but if you are voting for democrats because you think the GOP is racist, that is a defensive strategy and i question it

im neutral in the sense that im willing to vote for either party but again my personal ideology has to do with the issue of culture so i lean closer to conservative ideas, as far as i know im pretty straight up about where i stand on any issue, but i dont give a fuk about either party, that's where i claim to be neutral, i dont claim to be neutral on issues
 

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Black people in today's society are confused. Brought into the hook and sinker for liberal cacs. Southern cacs are outly racist while Northern cacs in hidden racists. Which ever door you fukk with them you gonna get something bad. Door 1: Herpes Door 2: Syphilis

You can't win. If you want to win, start your own party for just Blacks and Hispanics. That will be hard because they are doing everything to get the Hispanic vote and could give a sh*t about us. Black people are losing because we don't know the enemy anymore. We try to say it's these cacs when it's all of them till we can come up with a plan to uplift ourselves.
 

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black unemployment is skyrocketing. i bet you think that has to do with obama, too, right? you cacs and c00ns act as if blacks aren't trying to govern in SPITE of external forces that are geared to undermine our progress as a community. the violence in philly has NOTHING to do with mayor nutter and EVERYTHING to do with the social and economic marginalization of black people by cac america.

THAT is just one example. :facepalm: at the c00nish shyt that comes out your ass.

i have no idea what you are talking about, i dont have any beef with obama, i disagree with some of the things he's done but i support obama, i was actually the president of the Obamabot club on SOHH and micheal nutter actually agrees with me that black people need to address culture



i was actually alluding to detroit and other black cities that are caca
 
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And the shutdown of factories in Detroit didn't obliterate the black middle class, right?

and the lack of education of the black population stifled and it is still stifling the options detroit has, detroit isnt going anywhere until black people change our culture to focus on academics, and also black people in detroit need to create an open political environment that allows the free flow of new ideas instead of an echo chamber where black leaders regurgitate marxist social justice philosophies from the 1960s

hopefully the new manager will straighten things out and lay a good foundation for that

at the end of the day what black people do is more important to the future of detroit than what white people do
 

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Being a free man means that I have the freedom and obligation to make my own decisions. Not just when it comes down to what type of car I drive or what I am going to wear for the day, but with regards to every part of my life.

Because of the unwavering support that the Democratic party has received from the black community over the last few decades, I sometimes feel like there is a certain level of entitlement that Democrats feel when it comes down to black people's votes... I feel like Democratic leaders forget our votes are earned.

I don't feel like like this happened accidentally or because of some conspiracy (even though either of these is possible)... In my opinion we LET ourselves get to this point. Somewhere along the line we forgot that the only reason that we vote for these so-called leaders is because of WHAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITIES... not because they are Democrats.

And just like us, our leaders forgot that we vote for them not because we are black, but because of what we expect from them.

Actions become habits and it has become a habit for most black people to vote for the Democratic Party. Habits lead to expectations and Democrat leaders expect to get our votes just because they are Democrats...

The problem is when you expect me to behave a certain way just because I am black, and go the extra mile to affect my decision you are being racist. And when I LET your actions and expectation affect what I do, how I live my life, or who I choose to vote for, I am CHOOSING to fall victim to your racism...When I look at the actions of the Democratic party and the so called liberal media, I feel like they can be seen as racist.

I say all of that to say this...I can understand why Dr. Carson is saying what he is saying. When it comes to black people in politics specifically, Democrats tend to be more racist than Republicans. They expect me to behave a certain way, but more importantly, they make a concerted effort to make sure that I behave that way.

What are some methods they use? Well... just look through this thread. If you say you are black and claim to be a Republican, you are mocked and called names. In reality a free man of any race or nationality should be able to make his own decisions when it comes to any issue...And his decisions should be respected.

The so called liberal media uses more advanced techniques.... Networks like NBC and CNN don't try to control what you do by resorting to calling you names or making fun of you. Instead they make a concerted effort to make sure that you have as little information on important topics as possible. On the other hand they have endless hours of programming that is intended to appeal to your emotions...And if you aren't careful emotions can and will cloud your judgement.

Just to give an example of what I mean, let's look at a recent hot-topic in the media, the assault weapons bill and the recent mass shootings around the country. These tragic and disheartening situations were covered endlessly by every major network. Despite this endless coverage and despite the millions of people that tune in to watch every day and night, the average viewer doesn't know the most basic facts about the issues (What is an assault weapon? What is the difference between an assault weapon and an assault rifle?) And in most cases, this same viewer will have a solidified opinion about the issue. Opinion without facts is always a dangerous thing.

The thing is, white people that watch Fox News are victims of the same "racism" that black people fall victim to. Matter of fact, I don't even think it should be called racism. It's just really really powerful people trying to control your actions by any means necessary. Racism, sexism, and all these other isms are simply tools that are used.

At the end of the day our actions are all that we really have. Over the last few decades, I feel like the American people have lost sight of this fact. By LETTING these powerful outside forces influence our decisions (inaction is form action), we are CHOOSING to give up our most basic rights as human beings.

this is EXACTLY why some of us dont see not voting as bad... if D's actually had to work for our vote then shyt may actually happen. Morally I cannot vote R on a national ticket until their tone and message and policies change, so I have two choices vote for the lesser of two evils or dont vote at all.

The lesser just causes further trouble down the line... and this includes Barry
 

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Our growing dependence on the govt has definitely been counterproductive. What should have been done was a wholesale transitioning of the country out of factory work and into service jobs. We got clipped thrice with the death of American steel, Reagan's war on the black family and the expansion of welfare.
 

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Our growing dependence on the govt has definitely been counterproductive. What should have been done was a wholesale transitioning of the country out of factory work and into service jobs. We got clipped thrice with the death of American steel, Reagan's war on the black family and the expansion of welfare.

Everyone got it at the end of the day. It's not a white or black issue.
 

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Politicians "working" for the vote doesnt amount to much but a town hall meeting or two during the election cycle. Once these people get elected they go rogue and throw their constituents in the bushes for whatever special interests buy them out. There is no reason to have any faith in the American political process... all it is good for is rhetoric

So are you advocating people shouldn't vote?
 

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So are you advocating people shouldn't vote?
:comeon:

I am saying yall are giving the American political system, as it is in practice, way more credit than it deserves.

These stupid fukks haven't been able to balance a budget in 30 years, and the GOP hasn't accomplished anything in the context of their core principles/rhetoric since the whole "small govt" philosophy was born. And yet somehow, through some process neither you nor Twimmy can explain, they are a key tool for us to use to build black power? fukk that. Money is power and we don't need to play politics to get it.
 

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I think any non-white with half a brain realizes that White Liberals aren't too much better than their Conservative cousin, but at least they have somewhat of a better understanding of race issues/don't seem to get in as much racial controversy
 
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