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Yo on the real fukk both partys none of them give a fukk about black people nikkas love to kiss the dems ass but last time I checked nikkas was still broke still in he ghetto fukk em both.

:what: and what does that have to do with dems? you critics of dems really love employing logical fallacies.

it's why discussion on HL is oftentimes pointless.
 

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:what: and what does that have to do with dems? you critics of dems really love employing logical fallacies.

it's why discussion on HL is oftentimes pointless.

Great. Maybe you should leave this subforum then. Because 90% of your posts are devoid of thought or critical thinking.

Overall, the Dems are FULL of racists that do nothing but patronize blacks. Unfortunately many of the "liberal" posters here enjoy that patronizing, because the feel so powerless and emasculated with their democratic masters shaping their every thought and desire.

Get off the democratic party plantation you fukks!

 
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Great. Maybe you should leave this subforum then. Because 90% of your posts are devoid of thought or critical thinking.

Overall, the Dems are FULL of racists that do nothing but patronize blacks. Unfortunately many of the "liberal" posters here enjoy that patronizing, because the feel so powerless and emasculated with their democratic masters shaping their every thought and desire.

Get off the democratic party plantation you fukks!

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Yep. Get off the democratic plantation, and go join the GOP minstrel show, so all the white republicans can parade you around like Herman Cain and Ben Carson

You nikkas and this binary thinking sound stupid as fukk
 
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Great. Maybe you should leave this subforum then. Because 90% of your posts are devoid of thought or critical thinking.

Overall, the Dems are FULL of racists that do nothing but patronize blacks. Unfortunately many of the "liberal" posters here enjoy that patronizing, because the feel so powerless and emasculated with their democratic masters shaping their every thought and desire.

Get off the democratic party plantation you fukks!

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Attempts at assisting blacks in the yoke of white supremacy is patronizing? Support of affirmative action is patronizing? Trying to make adequate health care accessible is patronizing? Affordable housing is patronizing? Easing loan restrictions (redlining) is patronizing? If I'm devoid of critical thinking, you're lacking an actual brain.
 

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Im not confusing anything. You said black cities are in disarray because they elect liberal black leaders, and liberalism isn't something black people should be championing. You said black people should vote GOP as part of a "Faustian bargain" and to increase our political leverage. This is all in the context of your idea of promoting "black domination". So you claim you never said gov't is key, but then say govt has been key in our destruction and is an important tool to use in our rebuilding.

i said that liberalism has not worked great in black cities so what is so great about it?

i said black people should split their votes

and i said the key to everything is culture, im not sure how you get "government is the key" out of that, are you saying that by my critiquing governments i am by definition saying government is the key?

pardon me but i thought i would have to say government is the key for me to mean government is the key

you extrapolating criticism into me saying government is the key is laughable logic

SEPARATELY, I'm questioning your assertion that partnering with the GOP would yield any results. What would we get out of them in your Faustian bargain???

i just said it, crass raw political power, thats why i applaud tim scott for example, and carson until know, i think he fuked himself up

Again please stop with this hip hop nation bullshyt.

no i wont, like i said culture is the key, and reviving hip hop culture and the knowledge element is the key to reviving black culture

i keep telling you straight up what the key is and then you keep on telling me what im saying and then say im contradicting myself based on what you say that i am saying and meanwhile you ignore what i actually said

Then why have you repeatedly suggested that blacks split our votes between the left and right to increase our political leverage????

how does me saying im center right contradict me suggesting vote splitting?

do you know what the word 'center' means politically?

and for that matter how does me advocating for intellectual freedom contradict me saying black people should vote for whoever?

If the GOP can't do anything for us or help us solve our problems, what is the point of partnering with or helping them in any way????

you do it for raw poltical power, that is the connotation of a faustian bargain, not everything has to be about saving the world and altruism, sometimes you have to make raw power moves just for the fuk of it

Turnout has been a key element in many elections... not voting is just as valid a strategy as voting for one side or another.

not voting was the "strategy", at least pre obama, and might come again post obama, i would strongly suggest we change that strategy
 

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Yo, saying you disagree with me or you dont like the way i talk or that you think im condescending is not evidence of me contradicting myself and its not evidence that I've said that government is the key

I've said straight up that black people should make a Faustian bargain with the GOP, if you disagree then disagree, but i am not contradicting myself

You annoy people because you argue in a way that is wholly disingenuous. And please do not respond with some attempted snappy comeback diss because I'm not trying to diss or insult you personally or go another round of e-tit for tat.

You use this "intellectual freedom" stuff as a mask for you to go against the grain of popular opinion, then play victim as if there's a herd mentality that wants to squash dissent and have everyone in lockstep. But that's not the case. People are just engaging in exchange of ideas and have some sharp disagreements.

If you think Friedman neoliberal economic policies, or black SES is mostly due to culture or what have you, just make that case. You have the "intellectual freedom" to do so. But all this extra shyt about "marxist liberal posters wanting to stifle dissenting opinion, you're a marxist and you think black people must be marxists, yadda, yadda, yadda" and these copouts of how you believe in "intellectual freedom" while hypocritically telling others how they need to think and act by virtue of them being black is just a disingenuous smokescreen, and along with all your sarcastic self-aggrandizing one-liners, it is condescending and insulting.

I don't disagree with some of the stuff you say. But getting a rational, honest argument out of you seems near impossible. We've all been posting here for years and "know" each other pretty well. There's no need for you to continue to assume this antagonistic posture.
 

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Yep. Get off the democratic plantation, and go join the GOP minstrel show, so all the white republicans can parade you around like Herman Cain and Ben Carson

You nikkas and this binary thinking sound stupid as fukk

Funny you mention binary thinking while trafficking in it in this post.
Just because someone leaves the Dems does not mean they automatically run to the Repubs.
It is that type of thinking that keeps the country stuck in this two party quagmire.
 

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Funny you mention binary thinking while trafficking in it in this post.
Just because someone leaves the Dems does not mean they automatically run to the Repubs.
It is that type of thinking that keeps the country stuck in this two party quagmire.
HH4L is a long time GOP parrot. In the context of his posting history any left wing slander is an implicit endorsement of the GOP. Like Twimmy he makes excuses for or outright ignores the blatant racism of the right, but somehow sees racism in everything the left does. Unlike Twimmy though, when called on it he won't respond... he is a habitual stone thrower/hand hider.

So in that context him calling for us to "leave the Dem plantation" is a call to join him in being a GOP exhibit.
 

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You annoy people because you argue in a way that is wholly disingenuous. And please do not respond with some attempted snappy comeback diss because I'm not trying to diss or insult you personally or go another round of e-tit for tat.

You use this "intellectual freedom" stuff as a mask for you to go against the grain of popular opinion, then play victim as if there's a herd mentality that wants to squash dissent and have everyone in lockstep. But that's not the case. People are just engaging in exchange of ideas and have some sharp disagreements.

If you think Friedman neoliberal economic policies, or black SES is mostly due to culture or what have you, just make that case. You have the "intellectual freedom" to do so. But all this extra shyt about "marxist liberal posters wanting to stifle dissenting opinion, you're a marxist and you think black people must be marxists, yadda, yadda, yadda" and these copouts of how you believe in "intellectual freedom" while hypocritically telling others how they need to think and act by virtue of them being black is just a disingenuous smokescreen, and along with all your sarcastic self-aggrandizing one-liners, it is condescending and insulting.

I don't disagree with some of the stuff you say. But getting a rational, honest argument out of you seems near impossible. We've all been posting here for years and "know" each other pretty well. There's no need for you to continue to assume this antagonistic posture.

i just do not agree, i think i have made the case, i also go on about marxist thinking and thrown some insults here and there and maybe you latch on to that, but i think ive made the case for my positions

the reason for me throwing around intellectual freedom is 1) the insults that are thrown around and 2) i honestly believe black people are in an economic and intellectual rut 3) i honestly think the notion that people like tim scott or carson are some big threat and sellouts that need to be lambasted is silly
 

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that i havent made the case for my positions
You haven't :yeshrug:

When confronted you do one of three things

- claim you didn't mean what you said
- go off on a tangent
- throw out one of your catchphrases

You claim to champion intellectual freedom but you practice intellectual cowardice. Everyone sees it which is why everyone responds to you how they do.
 

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You haven't :yeshrug:

When confronted you do one of three things

- claim you didn't mean what you said
- go off on a tangent
- throw out one of your catchphrases

You claim to champion intellectual freedom but you practice intellectual cowardice. Everyone sees it which is why everyone responds to you how they do.

half this thread is just me pointing out you fabricating things that ive said, i have never said government is the key

i never said i was a conservative or a republican, i said i was center right, so im not sure why you want me to defend the GOP, the case i was making was that it doesnt really matter who black people vote for cuz both sides are racist and a lot of democratic ideas have not worked, the GOP has some better positions on some issues and overall racism is just one factor out of many and i think i explained very clearly why i thought that way

the fact that you disagree doesnt mean i didnt make my case
 
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