"White liberals are the most racist people"-Ben Carson

[MeachTheMonster]

Its not simply an issue of splitting the vote, its about making the parties WORK for said vote. If politicians realize your vote is already predetermined then both the incumbents and the challengers will not campaign to win your vote. And in Baracks case, you'll be completely ignored once you've casted your votes as well.

If politicians realize your vote is worth nothing they won't campagn for it either. Being a minority we can't cause a major shift by splitting up our vote, all it would do is reduce our bargaining power.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Plus keep in mind the GOP was the party that worked 24/7 to disenfranchise us. Now these dudes want us to turn around and vote for them. That was like one of the only things they were able to actually get done in any capacity. Why should we give away votes that by any measure these motherfukkers should be working hard to earn? The whole splitting votes thing makes no fukking sense.

 

[kermit da hustla]

Virtually everybody is a closet racist to some extent.

we must have completely different definitions of "racist." i don't see hatred for white people exhibited by blacks. see outrage and anger at what they justly perceive to be oppressive policies and attitudes. calling them cacs and such isn't racism, in my mind. it's the logical result of being a victim of this system of racism.

go onto these forums and read what these think. look at their rationalizations. their "racism" is decidedly different than what you would attribute to blacks and other races. white racism is unique, and it's evil.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

we must have completely different definitions of "racist." i don't see hatred for white people exhibited by blacks. see outrage and anger at what they justly perceive to be oppressive policies and attitudes. calling them cacs and such isn't racism, in my mind. it's the logical result of being a victim of this system of racism.

go onto these forums and read what these think. look at their rationalizations. their "racism" is decidedly different than what you would attribute to blacks and other races. white racism is unique, and it's evil.

You take white guilt to a whole new level with this garbage, please stop

 

[theworldismine13]

If our vote is reduced to only 2-4% cause we fragmented it being "intellectually free" then there is no reason for either party to go after our vote. The only reason they are somewhat going after our vote now is because we stood together and showed them we will vote and stand behind those we believe in. Fragmenting our vote will only remove the gains in power that we have achived, then both parties will go back to ignoring us again. As we vote democrat the GOP is starting to understand that they need our vote to win elections, and their policy will start to reflect that. Until now they didn't need our vote, now they do, we shouldn't give it to them unless they give something to us.

im not sure what you mean by fragmented by 2-4%

if an election is within single digit percentage points, then a small shift in the voting patterns can decide the election, and that just nationwide we black people are 12 percent, the opportunities grow in state and local elections

what im saying wont make any sense if you are partisan and have strong ideological views that you feel are represented by the democratic party and feel the country and the black race will come to an end under GOP policies, then by all means you should vote democratic, im mostly talking to people like me that dont really give a fuk about the democrats

because a lot of elections are tight all over the country small shifts can mean a lot and that creates an opening for small groups, that observation has nothing to do with black people its a well known part of the elections, im just applying it to black people but it applies to any minority group or interest group

 

[kermit da hustla]

almost all majority black cities are run by black liberals and almost all black cities are economic disaster zones, so liberal ideologies isnt really anything black people should be championing either

black unemployment is skyrocketing. i bet you think that has to do with obama, too, right? you cacs and c00ns act as if blacks aren't trying to govern in SPITE of external forces that are geared to undermine our progress as a community. the violence in philly has NOTHING to do with mayor nutter and EVERYTHING to do with the social and economic marginalization of black people by cac america.

THAT is just one example. at the c00nish shyt that comes out your ass.

 

[kermit da hustla]

You take white guilt to a whole new level with this garbage, please stop

i'm not white.

 

[theworldismine13]

Plus keep in mind the GOP was the party that worked 24/7 to disenfranchise us. Now these dudes want us to turn around and vote for them. That was like one of the only things they were able to actually get done in any capacity. Why should we give away votes that by any measure these motherfukkers should be working hard to earn? The whole splitting votes thing makes no fukking sense.

yeah a lot of black people think that way because they have been pussified by the democrats and marxist ideology about equality and social justice, so you only think in terms of being a victim

one day you will graduate to my level where think in terms of domination and you will realize democrats and republicans is the same shyt

 

[The Real]

yeah a lot of black people think that way because they have been pussified by the democrats and marxist ideology about equality and social justice, so you only think in terms of being a victim

one day you will graduate to my level where think in terms of domination and you will realize democrats and republicans is the same shyt

So Republicans didn't actively work to disenfranchise Black people for the last century? So Republicans shouldn't have to earn Black votes? So making a cynical, Faustian pact with an anti-Black institution that is much more powerful than Black people can somehow be a win?

What part of domination is submitting yourself to the whims of a group that actively dislikes and outguns you?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

im not sure what you mean by fragmented by 2-4%

if an election is within single digit percentage points, then a small shift in the voting patterns can decide the election, and that just nationwide we black people are 12 percent, the opportunities grow in state and local elections

what im saying wont make any sense if you are partisan and have strong ideological views that you feel are represented by the democratic party and feel the country and the black race will come to an end under GOP policies, then by all means you should vote democratic, im mostly talking to people like me that dont really give a fuk about the democrats

because a lot of elections are tight all over the country small shifts can mean a lot and that creates an opening for small groups, that observation has nothing to do with black people its a well known part of the elections, im just applying it to black people but it applies to any minority group or interest group

The bolded is the strawman that you like to create. I've said nothing about partisanship. Or the black race coming to an end. You made that up, not me.

As for shifting tight elections, it would make no sense to shift them away from our favor. If the GOP can earn our votes by ignoring us and further oppressing us, then why would they ever stop?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Pathetic

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

yeah a lot of black people think that way because they have been pussified by the democrats and marxist ideology about equality and social justice, so you only think in terms of being a victim

one day you will graduate to my level where think in terms of domination and you will realize democrats and republicans is the same shyt

I regularly speak against the adoption of the victim mentality bruh. Miss me with that.

But the GOP actively sought out to disenfranchise us to win elections. You turn a blind eye to blatant GOP racism under the auspice of "intellectual freedom", and then jump through all kinds of hoops to identify anything the left does as racist, and any black people who vote for them being weak or scared. And then have the nerve to claim impartiality/ neutrality. Come on fam.

The concept of the path to domination being through the party that has tirelessly worked to dehumanize, demoralize and disenfranchise us for the last 50+ years just ices the cake of your confusion.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I have yet to see proof of these "negative effects"

History News Network

Your government at work.......

This lovely senator's report was prophetic...

Moynihan generally concluded in the report: "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States".[5]

This was stated in 1965

 

[MeachTheMonster]

History News Network

Your government at work.......

This lovely senator's report was prophetic...

[QOUTE]Moynihan generally concluded in the report: "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States".[5][/QOUTE]

That's an opinion, but there is no actual proof to back it up.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

That's an opinion, but there is no actual proof to back it up.

WoW. Are you black?

Not only did this senator's report relay these concerns in 1965(I'm sure you didn't even try to find it), but the proof is what you see in the so called black community today......Malcolm even spoke on this....

No actual proof to back it up...........WoW. That's amazing.

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