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Exactly. The list of influential and important Black Americans can be divided in categories such as; musicians, writers, scientists, and so on. Just listed them is to general and useless tbh. I also think it's a spit on the face to make an MLK day....they should make a holiday that reflects everyone's contribution to the civil rights movement.pac maybe top 10 in black pop culture people and if he didnt die he probably would have been able to do alot more in the political realm and socially but to say he is top 10 in general
thats a slap in the face to the people that got shot, hung, hosed, beat etc for pac to even be able to
Doesn't matter. He is still wasn't African-American.
Are you kidding me? His point can be made to be included based of influence alone. Do you even know who he was or what he has done?
Yes. I know who he was. I learned about him in High School and in College, but the title says Influential/important African-Americans.
its pointless, the nikkas talkin bout Pac probably only know Malcolm X, MLK and Barack on your list
If this thread was about who contributed the most to society, Id agree but we're talking who was more influential. Who left a more lasting footprint on the world. How can you be more influential if nobody knows who the fukk you are? The average black person doesn't know that Robert Moses was running freedom schools in the south when the KKK was still lighting nikkas on fire. Most people DONT know who the fukk that nikka is but they DO know about Pac....Pac is high up there on the list (top 25 at minimum) whether you like it or not....
since someone asked if you were black and you didn't say you were, Im going to assume you arent.
I'm not on any high horse, I'm just being logical. You and a lot of other people in this thread have an extremely narrow and simplistic definition of the word "influential." Let me ask you this, do you know the names of the people who took part in the invention of the internet? Probably not off top, but they're a lot more influential to peoples' lives than Madonna or Bruce Springsteen.Yawn....you ain't the only one who's taken an African American studies class. I can add about 20 more names to that list of yours. Asa Phillip Randolph, Shirley Chisholm, Ida B Wells, Madam CJ Walker, Robert Parris Moses, Carl Stokes, Richard Wright, etc. Get off your high horse
They are not the most influential...just the most popular. White people want you to believe they are, though.
Yawn....you ain't the only one who's taken an African American studies class. I can add about 20 more names to that list of yours. Asa Phillip Randolph, Shirley Chisholm, Ida B Wells, Madam CJ Walker, Robert Parris Moses, Carl Stokes, Richard Wright, to name a few. Get off your high horse
idk why this killed me
Being influential can touch upon entertainment as well. Michael Jackson for instance can be argued to be in the top 20. He revolutionized Pop and broke down racial barrier in the music industry. Im a huge Pac fan but he can logically be placed in the top 50 or even the top 100. That's a pretty impressive feet still. And don't act like "thug life" was Pac's only "influence"I'm not on any high horse, I'm just being logical. You and a lot of other people in this thread have an extremely narrow and simplistic definition of the word "influential." Let me ask you this, do you know the names of the people who took part in the invention of the internet? Probably not off top, but they're a lot more influential to peoples' lives than Madonna or Bruce Springsteen.
Name recognition does not equal influence. If you want to play the name recognition game, Rihanna is more influential than 2Pac by that criteria. She sold more records and is more popular worldwide. So is Beyonce. 2Pac's work was obviously of a greater creative depth than those two, but let's be real...he was a fukking rapper. I know Pac stans often try to act like he was Jesus, Moses, MLK, Gandhi, Muhammad, Malcolm X, William Wallace, Nat Turner, Monster Kody, and Shakespeare all rolled into one, though.
Musicians can influence peoples' moods for better or worse, and provide inspiration and pleasurable leisure activity. But at the end of the day, your life would essentially be the exact same way in terms of the major aspects: employment, education, career, degree of happiness, family situation, etc. if they never existed. Pac or no other musician had nowhere near the influence on peoples' lives in a tangible sense anybody on the list I named. He didn't help alter the consciousness of an entire nation like MLK or X, or provide the legal groundwork to end Jim Crow like Carter G. Woodson, or create a system of blood banks that saved countless lives like Charles Drew.
There was a thread on sohh similar to this a while back and some people were naming 2Pac, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, etc.
. He is the only rapper with the most murals and statues across the world. That's influence.I just want to be clear, your argument seems to revolve around me having to be black to understand his impact to the world?
