"When You Really Wanna Fight Someone, The Fight Gets Done" Wilder v Fury 12/1 SHOWTIME PPV Thread

[LiveFromLondon]

He had him jogging in his corner, it doesn't take 10-15 seconds to check that lol. Cmon bro. But it was a good storyline so can't hate .

Some of you just dont know shyt about boxing. Fliippin heeelll

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Can't believe nikkas really in here trotting out old Tyson/Douglas count nonsense

Why is it that the count only matters when it comes to someone not getting a bail out KO when they've been embarrassed

This was a straight up count. No where NEAR a Bute situation.

 

[Perfectson]

Well no.. Fury is reacting to the referee's count. Boxers don't look at a stopwatch, you follow the referee's count. He safely made the referee's count. He sat and decided to get up at at 6 I believe. If the refs count was faster, you would assume Fury gets up faster.

he sat and waited to get up at 6

lmfao

some of yall in here saying we don't know boxing. Tyson was ASLEEP, he was KO'd ...salute his recovery skills tho. I think his head hitting the canvas must of knocked him back awake LOL

 

[Perfectson]

Fury dropped 2:22 and got up at 2:13 the result was satisfying we got us a rivalry and a rematch some time fukk the bogus "robbery" foul play shyt non of them got robbed the result was fair and logical.

Check this

every ref is different but some of these refs waved the fight when the fighter was clearly out

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

"Joshua can't do what Fury does" Can he do what Gerald Washington does though?

We all know Wilder has relied on that one bomb to bail him out vs every decent opponent he's faced, but Joshua will randomly be the exception? Like you need Fury level skills to piece up Wilder anyway.

Wilder has proven time and time again he can land one or two bombs in a fight, but as we just saw, against elite competition that won't always be enough.

After yesterday, it would be common sense to bet against Wilder while only giving him a lucky punchers chance.

Deontay needs to worry about how he should have lost to a flabby and sick, Dr. Eggman version of Fury before he worries about anyone else anyway. Fury has proven he's shaken off the ring rust and has already reacclimated to Championship level competition, when he comes into the rematch in even better shape who really gives Wilder a real chance?

AJ is the better boxer of the two, I don't think anybody would argue against that but a lot of these Euros talking about AJ like he's Lennox Lewis, as if we didn't see him struggle and get outboxed in the center of the ring by the smaller man Parker a couple months ago...

You don't need Fury level skill to beat Wilder but you need to show the DEFENSIVE ability to at least slip punches which is something AJ has never shown...That's why Ortiz had success against Wilder, he doesn't move and box like Fury but he's got good head movement and slips punches well...It was that movement from Ortiz made Wilder hesitant and look stupid until Ortiz got tired...

AJ has three major issues, defensively he is stiff with limited head movement, stamina is basura, and he is chinny...Those three negatives IMO trump any athletic advantage he has over Wilder because they guarantee he is going to at one point get hit with that right hand...Gerald Washington he had those same three issues and he lasted 5 rounds with Wilder despite being the quicker more skilled boxer...

We've seen it now time and time again from Wilder, he can get out-boxed and miss 99 punches swinging foolishly but if 100 connects its lights out...If you're betting on AJ you're betting on him stopping Wilder (who has never been stopped) before he can land that right hand meaning EARLY within 3 rounds...

I'll bet on Wilders right hand against a stiff any day...

 

[Perfectson]

Jogging in the corner?

Yal got a really, really obvious slant when it comes to a lot of this stuff

When refs are asking guys to walk or take a step forward, its to see if they're wobbly - and if they are? That's how fights get stopped even with a guy getting back up under the 10 count. The ref even pushed Fury's arms away when he tried to put his arms forward to lean on him in an effort to keep his balance. People are getting that episode of the fight COMPLETELY backwards. When refs don't do this and let over eager fighters back in there in order to appease the crowd or keep the energy going, guys get cleaned the fukk out and lose years off their careers.

Out of all things that happened in Fury/Wilder, the officiating was actually fantastic.

look, i never said it wasn't a fantastic fight. Ref took some liberties to give Fury time to get the cobwebs out, that's fact (or maybe that's just my perspective, which I can agree to disgree on). it wasn't just knocking his hands off of him. Fury was completely out, could have had the fight waved. Some people can argue about the count but I really think Fury made it in the nick of time. I do think he was given extra time to recover and he bit down on his mouth piece and bought to wilder afterwards.

 

[Perfectson]

All refs do this. You can't just stand. You have to be standing by 10, but then they'll check to make sure the fighter can go on, and the fighter has to respond. They'll do a number of things - tell you to raise your gloves, ask can you continue and check your eyes, ask you to walk to corner and come back and fight. If you've heard of a standing 8 count, it's the same practice. Ref did a great job.

Actually, more credit should be given to Fury. He did the right thing by giving himself a couple of seconds to regain focus before trying to stand.

agree, I just think he was slow, not the slowest I've seen though. I also seen refs check the gloves (because him standing his basically saying he's okay) and ask where they are at and let them get to it. I've seen journeymen vs prospects where they feed the journeymen up and those guys get knocked down and they get the glove check and the prospect is literally on top of them waiting for the ref to move

 

[RTF]

Breh, I'm on the side of the count being good, re read my posts in this thread What I was saying is that ref's count is depending on the officials ring side that starts it once a boxer is down then the ref follows up. There are alternate angles of the KD where you could see the one of the two ladies ring side getting up and starting the count and then the ref looks at her to see at what second he should continue on. It's impossible to exactly have a 10 seconds count as the ref doesn't have a stopwatch on him but the rules of boxing does state that a boxer should regain his feet within that time.

My point is the rules of boxing have the refs counting and

he sat and waited to get up at 6

lmfao

some of yall in here saying we don't know boxing. Tyson was ASLEEP, he was KO'd ...salute his recovery skills tho. I think his head hitting the canvas must of knocked him back awake LOL

You talking about boxing knowledge you know nothing about basic contact sport.

If he lost consciousness for even 2 seconds he would’ve had spaghetti legs.

If he was KO’d he wouldn’t be able to get up, be so sure footed and fight straight away.

He must’ve been stunned for a few seconds. But not ko’d. If he was ko’d the referee would’ve seen it in his eyes at around the 3 count and wave it off. The slow motion of you can see he’s making eye contact with the referee around 3 seconds.

 

[GOAT]

Not sure what the controversy is. Fury got up within the count without a doubt. Look, I wanted Wilder to win the fight but he just flat out lost. He was outclassed out there by a much more skilled boxer. Hopefully he goes back to the drawing board and works on honing his craft

 

[Roid Jones]

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Usyk gonna be hell for Wilder and Joshua. Hate to use the triangle theory but if Szpilka could frustrate Wilder, then i have no doubt that Usyk can as well.

Now if he gets clipped by Wilder, good night

Been saying that Usyk is gonna give these dudes issues, Wilder and Joshua would need to impose their size on him early if not I can see a clinic being put on

 

[Columbo]

Anyone know where i can watch this fight? Missed it last night

 

[Perfectson]

My point is the rules of boxing have the refs counting and

You talking about boxing knowledge you know nothing about basic contact sport.

If he lost consciousness for even 2 seconds he would’ve had spaghetti legs.

If he was KO’d he wouldn’t be able to get up, be so sure footed and fight straight away.

He must’ve been stunned for a few seconds. But not ko’d. If he was ko’d the referee would’ve seen it in his eyes at around the 3 count and wave it off. The slow motion of you can see he’s making eye contact with the referee around 3 seconds.

I'm calling bullshyt, but not going to argue about this, because you can lose consciousness and not have spaghetti legs.

 

[Perfectson]

Not sure what the controversy is. Fury got up within the count without a doubt. Look, I wanted Wilder to win the fight but he just flat out lost. He was outclassed out there by a much more skilled boxer. Hopefully he goes back to the drawing board and works on honing his craft

LOL, Wilder is 33 - i doubt he's gonna learn how to properly throw a bunch. his reaction time sucks and so does his foot movement. You're seeing what he is, the only thing more he can do is learn to pump the jab and work on cardio. I never seen him so gassed, all those misses will do it to you tho.

 

[AlainLocke]

Breh, Fury isn't a Al Haymon fighter. Showtime wanted to use this fight to showcase him for a fight with AJ. They desperately wanted Wilder to win. He simply didn't do it, KDs included. Wilder fought off of his back foot repeatedly, something he doesn't do and like the statistics showed, Wilder does _____ against other fighters, he was doing far less than that against Fury. Lennox Lewis saw a Fury win , Andre Ward saw a Fury win, Gabriel Rosado saw a Fury win. Many others saw a Fury win. 4-0 for Wilder in the beginning means that judge should be censured. There is a reason why 'Rochin' was trending earlier on Twitter. His card is a travesty.

They really should have ex-fighters and ex-trainers judge combat sports...

I don't know who the fukk realistically could say Wilder should be ahead of Fury on any of the cards...

 

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