"When You Really Wanna Fight Someone, The Fight Gets Done" Wilder v Fury 12/1 SHOWTIME PPV Thread

[Kenny_Powers]

We really need to get AI to score these bouts. Humans ain't cutting it, brehs.

 

[reservoirdogs]

The "he doesn't need skills cause he has power" myth got debunked again. I intentionally oversimplify it now I know Wilder got some skills but there were sooo many Wilder fans who were confident that Wilder's power will always bail him out and it will be consistently enough against elite opposition especially after he beat Ortiz. That's just not realistic in boxing.

No. At that elite level there will be dudes who will take your punches or don't let you land yours and land hard counters on you if you are overly reliant on power. You won't slam dunk elite competition just because you have one punch KO power, it never happened. Literally I can't recall a fighter who got by consistently against the elite with only relying on one punch KO power.
You might mention the likes of Marciano but those type of guys relied on their strength, stamina and toughness just as much, not really on one punch KO power.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Wilder stated he better than mike Tyson? Hahaha
David tua would have raped him like a prison toyboy.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Wilder stated he better than mike Tyson? Hahaha
David tua would have raped him like a prison toyboy.

I can see Wilder setting up post-jail Tyson for a right hand and KO him (I can see Tyson KOing him too) cause Tyson got sloppier in those times relying overly on reputation but I give just a very slim chance to Wilder to land that punch on a prime Tyson from the 80's

 

[R=G]

The "he doesn't need skills cause he has power" myth got debunked again. I intentionally oversimplify it now I know Wilder got some skills but there were sooo many Wilder fans who were confident that Wilder's power will always bail him out and it will be consistently enough against elite opposition especially after he beat Ortiz. That's just not realistic in boxing.

No. At that elite level there will be dudes who will take your punches or don't let you land yours and land hard counters on you if you are overly reliant on power. You won't slam dunk elite competition just because you have one punch KO power, it never happened. Literally I can't recall a fighter who got by consistently against the elite with only relying on one punch KO power.
You might mention the likes of Marciano but those type of guys relied on their strength, stamina and toughness just as much, not really on one punch KO power.

His power did bail him out..without those knockdowns, the scorecards would of went the other way and he would not gave that WBC belt right now.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

is this the first boxing match you seen?

The people who get paid to judge boxing called it a tie.

I can understand opinions saying fury might have won on points

But to say he “dominated” and “got robbed” all while getting knocked down twice and never hurting his opponent the entire fight just doesn’t make sense to me.

I think a tie was the correct outcome

 

[Take It In Blood]

Said it once and I'll say it again


If Wilder actually knew how to box he'd be a problem



He made it this far off natural ability and talent but if he needs to learn how to throw hands and dead that knockout artist nonsense

 

[reservoirdogs]

His power did bail him out..without those knockdowns, the scorecards would of went the other way and he would not gave that WBC belt right now.

Really the judges bailed him out. With correct scoring he'd most likely lost that.
And his power definitely didn't bail him out in the sense that it was not enough for him to secure a win.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

The "he doesn't need skills cause he has power" myth got debunked again. I intentionally oversimplify it now I know Wilder got some skills but there were sooo many Wilder fans who were confident that Wilder's power will always bail him out and it will be consistently enough against elite opposition especially after he beat Ortiz. That's just not realistic in boxing.

No. At that elite level there will be dudes who will take your punches or don't let you land yours and land hard counters on you if you are overly reliant on power. You won't slam dunk elite competition just because you have one punch KO power, it never happened. Literally I can't recall a fighter who got by consistently against the elite with only relying on one punch KO power.
You might mention the likes of Marciano but those type of guys relied on their strength, stamina and toughness just as much, not really on one punch KO power.

ref saved fury

 

[R=G]

Really the judges bailed him out. With correct scoring he'd most likely lost that.
And his power definitely didn't bail him out in the sense that it was not enough for him to secure a win.

Well the two point stuff mattered, no matter how mad u are...its the knockdowns that cost that draw. No knockdowns...Fury walks away with it..like when they robbed Mayweather on the Canelo scorecard but everyone else got their mind right.

 

[Perfectson]

Breh, every ref do this.
Ref did everything perfectly on that KD. Even when Fury tried to put his hands on his shoulders for more stability after getting up, he brushed them off asap so Fury wouldn't use him to stand still.

No he didn't , there's an additional 10-15 seconds that the ref was giving Fury to clear the cobwebs.

Just pointing facts, he gave Fury every chance to regain his composure which gave an excellent story line, but he was cleaned KO'D...motionless and prone. Ref could have easily waved the fight at that point . You aren't supposed to get KOd and wake back up and continue to fight.

 

[Perfectson]

ref saved fury

He's off on his count, I think fury made it but the ref definitely was giving more than a typical opportunity to wake up

 

[Perfectson]

I was stating why the ref didn't just wave off the fight.
The ref telling a boxer to walk toward him to see if he still has his legs is common practice

He had him jogging in his corner, it doesn't take 10-15 seconds to check that lol. Cmon bro. But it was a good storyline so can't hate .

 

[S.W.A.G.]

ref saved fury

It’s a 10 count by the ref not 10 seconds. The fighter gets up to the count of the ref.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

He had him jogging in his corner, it doesn't take 10-15 seconds to check that lol. Cmon bro. But it was a good storyline so can't hate .

you don't watch many boxing matches, do you?