"When You Really Wanna Fight Someone, The Fight Gets Done" Wilder v Fury 12/1 SHOWTIME PPV Thread

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Told u guys tyson head movement would be too much for wilder.

Tyson got lazy and he was dropped, Tyson wins easy in the rematch.

Wilder is exactly what I thought he was, very overrated.
Fury didn't get lazy, he missed a lot of shots as well. Let's not act like his accuracy was anywhere near Floyd's
 

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Fury didn't get lazy, he missed a lot of shots as well. Let's not act like his accuracy was anywhere near Floyd's
I’m speaking on his defense when he got dropped
 

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Told u guys tyson head movement would be too much for wilder.

Tyson got lazy and he was dropped, Tyson wins easy in the rematch.

Wilder is exactly what I thought he was, very overrated.
Not lazy but cocky. Tyson's trainer mentioned that he told him to tie up after he slips Wilder's punches not keep trying to make Wilder miss.
 

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Just got to watch the fight, Wilder got taken to school. Fury showed alotta slick old school skills in there. Holding is a very underrated skill, alotta boxers either dont know how to or have too much pride

It was great to see both boxers embrace the way they did after the fight, I remember Wilder extending his support to Fury when Fury wasnt doing very good.

Much respect to both of them, it didnt really matter to me who won. I root for both them

Fury is non stop comedy, he won me over quick in the Klitschko fight pause :dame:

Floyd was on point when they interviewed him. What Fury was doing reminded me some of what Floyd did so many years and BHop as well controlling the distance and tempo of the fight. He was Boxing when Wilder wanted to fight, and fighting when Wilder wanted to box

Deontay has the ability and athleticism to box that way but maybe not the mind. He needs to look to land more combinations and stop looking to land one big punch. Fury did a great job of mixing up his punches and putting combinations together. Unless Deontay gets a different trainer i dont see how he wins the next fight considering he is 33, hasnt appeared to slow down at all yet but that can change quickly in your mid 30s

Fury could be in even better shape in the next fight, considering how much his body has changed over the past few years, with continued discipline and good habits.

Or maybe the win gets to his head and he comes back a little heavier and in not as good of shape

Anyone got some fight highlights?
I cant help you with the highlights but heres the full fight
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury Full Fight Boxing Part 1 MMA Video
 
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Every self proclaimed "expert" and "purist" on here and in the media acting like Fury outstruck Wilder in every round by a 3-1 margin while hitting 80% of his punches... when in reality there were only 2 rounds where Fury definitively outlanded Wilder by a significant margin, the 3rd and the 10th round. Outside of that, besides the 10-8 knockdown rounds, every round was contested by a difference of at the most 2 punches. Like literally every other damn round of the fight, rounds 1,2,4,5,6,7,8, and 11... all 8 of those rounds both guys landed within 1-2 punches of each other total. That's it!!!! :mindblown:

Like all of y'all saying Fury was robbed and he won every damn second of the fight outside of the knockdowns...what makes you say that, why are y'all so unflinchingly adamant about it? Cause the commentators couldn't go 5 seconds without sucking off Fury and about how "He's been through so much" and "He looks so good!" Cause he throws a bunch of schizophrenic feints every half a second and puts his hands behind his back like Cawhner Muhgregor when he ain't? What exactly did Fury do, what devastating hits did he land in all of these rounds contested by literally 1 or 2 punches at the absolute most that makes you so sure to your heart without doubt that he won convincingly, with no argument to the contrary?? A jab then a hook around the glove that caused no lasting damage and didn't stun Wilder for even half a second? A pawing jab that hit more glove and elbow than it did exposed face? Here's a different question: how much harder do you think the punches Wilder actually did connect with were compared to the punches Fury was landing all fight???? :jbhmm:

Yes Fury's unorthodox style rendered Wilder much more inaccurate than he usually is, like it does to almost every fighter Fury faces... but it's easy to not be there to be hit when the only strikes you're willing to commit to for the vast majority of the fight are jabs and quick hooks and 1-2s, punches and combinations you're not sitting down on at all because you're almost immediately looking for an exit from any retaliation afterwards. How much should making your opponent miss matter in the eyes of a judge when you're still only outlanding him by literally 1 or 2 punches for the whole round despite him only connecting on 15% or less of his???? When your opponent hits exponentially, colosally harder than you do with the punches he does manage to connect on you with... :francis:

I actually had Fury up if it went to a decision like the majority of you and most people seem to have had it... but to act like "There's NO WAY Deontay won ANY SECOND OF THE FIGHT BESIDES WHEN HE KNOCKED HIM DOWN"... in rounds where each guy is landing 4, 5, 6 damn punches for their entirety. To say that there's no way Deontay couldn't have swung a judge's opinion on ANY of them, or that they couldn't be scored as 10-10 draw rounds (most purists would have you believe these don't or shouldn't even exist, but they do and should apply in situations like these I think) and that in combination with the two 10-8 rounds that there's just no way you could ever rationally view this as a draw... IDK man. shyt just seems silly. I think a lot of y'all were just so convinced that a "real boxer" could make Wilder miss every power shot for 12 rounds, like the other 39 times were just flukes, that when he did do it once again, not once but twice, with the 2nd time flatlining that "real technical boxer" that you needed some excuse as to why that too was a fluke and how that should've never happened or mattered. But that's just me :yeshrug:
 

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The "he doesn't need skills cause he has power" myth got debunked again. I intentionally oversimplify it now I know Wilder got some skills but there were sooo many Wilder fans who were confident that Wilder's power will always bail him out and it will be consistently enough against elite opposition especially after he beat Ortiz. That's just not realistic in boxing.

No. At that elite level there will be dudes who will take your punches or don't let you land yours and land hard counters on you if you are overly reliant on power. You won't slam dunk elite competition just because you have one punch KO power, it never happened. Literally I can't recall a fighter who got by consistently against the elite with only relying on one punch KO power.
You might mention the likes of Marciano but those type of guys relied on their strength, stamina and toughness just as much, not really on one punch KO power.
His power did bail him out tho
 

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Every self proclaimed "expert" and "purist" on here and in the media acting like Fury outstruck Wilder in every round by a 3-1 margin while hitting 80% of his punches... when in reality there were only 2 rounds where Fury definitively outlanded Wilder by a significant margin, the 3rd and the 10th round. Outside of that, besides the 10-8 knockdown rounds, every round was contested by a difference of at the most 2 punches. Like literally every other damn round of the fight, rounds 1,2,4,5,6,7,8, and 11... all 8 of those rounds both guys landed within 1-2 punches of each other total. That's it!!!! :mindblown:

Like all of y'all saying Fury was robbed and he won every damn second of the fight outside of the knockdowns...what makes you say that, why are y'all so unflinchingly adamant about it? Cause the commentators couldn't go 5 seconds without sucking off Fury and about how "He's been through so much" and "He looks so good!" Cause he throws a bunch of schizophrenic feints every half a second and puts his hands behind his back like Cawhner Muhgregor when he ain't? What exactly did Fury do, what devastating hits did he land in all of these rounds contested by literally 1 or 2 punches at the absolute most that makes you so sure to your heart without doubt that he won convincingly, with no argument to the contrary?? A jab then a hook around the glove that caused no lasting damage and didn't stun Wilder for even half a second? A pawing jab that hit more glove and elbow than it did exposed face? Here's a different question: how much harder do you think the punches Wilder actually did connect with were compared to the punches Fury was landing all fight???? :jbhmm:

Yes Fury's unorthodox style rendered Wilder much more inaccurate than he usually is, like it does to almost every fighter Fury faces... but it's easy to not be there to be hit when the only strikes you're willing to commit to for the vast majority of the fight are jabs and quick hooks and 1-2s, punches and combinations you're not sitting down on at all because you're almost immediately looking for an exit from any retaliation afterwards. How much should making your opponent miss matter in the eyes of a judge when you're still only outlanding him by literally 1 or 2 punches for the whole round despite him only connecting on 15% or less of his???? When your opponent hits exponentially, colosally harder than you do with the punches he does manage to connect on you with... :francis:

I actually had Fury up if it went to a decision like the majority of you and most people seem to have had it... but to act like "There's NO WAY Deontay won ANY SECOND OF THE FIGHT BESIDES WHEN HE KNOCKED HIM DOWN"... in rounds where each guy is landing 4, 5, 6 damn punches for their entirety. To say that there's no way Deontay couldn't have swung a judge's opinion on ANY of them, or that they couldn't be scored as 10-10 draw rounds (most purists would have you believe these don't or shouldn't even exist, but they do and should apply in situations like these I think) and that in combination with the two 10-8 rounds that there's just no way you could ever rationally view this as a draw... IDK man. shyt just seems silly. I think a lot of y'all were just so convinced that a "real boxer" could make Wilder miss every power shot for 12 rounds, like the other 39 times were just flukes, that when he did do it once again, not once but twice, with the 2nd time flatlining that "real technical boxer" that you needed some excuse as to why that too was a fluke and how that should've never happened or mattered. But that's just me :yeshrug:

It doesn't matter the number. Fury controlled the fight, by controlling the distance. He was jabbing Wilder all night, keeping him at bay. Double ups on the jab all throughout most of the rounds. They can throw the same amount of punches but if one fighter has been utilizing it all night, while another connected in spurts over a short amount of time, the consistent fighter is the one that was controlling it. Even in the later rounds, Fury was doing enough just to keep Wilder out of range, because everyone knew Wilder had to KO (not KD) to win. PLUS he had Wilder missing badly.
 

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Every self proclaimed "expert" and "purist" on here and in the media acting like Fury outstruck Wilder in every round by a 3-1 margin while hitting 80% of his punches... when in reality there were only 2 rounds where Fury definitively outlanded Wilder by a significant margin, the 3rd and the 10th round. Outside of that, besides the 10-8 knockdown rounds, every round was contested by a difference of at the most 2 punches. Like literally every other damn round of the fight, rounds 1,2,4,5,6,7,8, and 11... all 8 of those rounds both guys landed within 1-2 punches of each other total. That's it!!!! :mindblown:

Like all of y'all saying Fury was robbed and he won every damn second of the fight outside of the knockdowns...what makes you say that, why are y'all so unflinchingly adamant about it? Cause the commentators couldn't go 5 seconds without sucking off Fury and about how "He's been through so much" and "He looks so good!" Cause he throws a bunch of schizophrenic feints every half a second and puts his hands behind his back like Cawhner Muhgregor when he ain't? What exactly did Fury do, what devastating hits did he land in all of these rounds contested by literally 1 or 2 punches at the absolute most that makes you so sure to your heart without doubt that he won convincingly, with no argument to the contrary?? A jab then a hook around the glove that caused no lasting damage and didn't stun Wilder for even half a second? A pawing jab that hit more glove and elbow than it did exposed face? Here's a different question: how much harder do you think the punches Wilder actually did connect with were compared to the punches Fury was landing all fight???? :jbhmm:

Yes Fury's unorthodox style rendered Wilder much more inaccurate than he usually is, like it does to almost every fighter Fury faces... but it's easy to not be there to be hit when the only strikes you're willing to commit to for the vast majority of the fight are jabs and quick hooks and 1-2s, punches and combinations you're not sitting down on at all because you're almost immediately looking for an exit from any retaliation afterwards. How much should making your opponent miss matter in the eyes of a judge when you're still only outlanding him by literally 1 or 2 punches for the whole round despite him only connecting on 15% or less of his???? When your opponent hits exponentially, colosally harder than you do with the punches he does manage to connect on you with... :francis:

I actually had Fury up if it went to a decision like the majority of you and most people seem to have had it... but to act like "There's NO WAY Deontay won ANY SECOND OF THE FIGHT BESIDES WHEN HE KNOCKED HIM DOWN"... in rounds where each guy is landing 4, 5, 6 damn punches for their entirety. To say that there's no way Deontay couldn't have swung a judge's opinion on ANY of them, or that they couldn't be scored as 10-10 draw rounds (most purists would have you believe these don't or shouldn't even exist, but they do and should apply in situations like these I think) and that in combination with the two 10-8 rounds that there's just no way you could ever rationally view this as a draw... IDK man. shyt just seems silly. I think a lot of y'all were just so convinced that a "real boxer" could make Wilder miss every power shot for 12 rounds, like the other 39 times were just flukes, that when he did do it once again, not once but twice, with the 2nd time flatlining that "real technical boxer" that you needed some excuse as to why that too was a fluke and how that should've never happened or mattered. But that's just me :yeshrug:
Damn didn't know those numbers of landed hits were so low, esp. the first few rds
 
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