So p was supposed to be a goon at 8 or 9 years old?
The pic was not from 88.
ok let me explain again... this ain't now... now we know these things.. i'm not talking about me.. or the few who were on the net, reading every interview... everyone's PERCEPTION was that jay just lyrically murdered P AND made... at the TIME.. one of the hardest rappers out.. who had dropped nothing but near classic/classic albums so far.. into a damn joke.. for however briefAgain:
What DIRECT effect did Jay showing a 1983 baby pic of Prodigy dressed as Michael Jackson have?
Did it make Prodigy write worse raps? Nope. We already established P fell off before 01 Summer Jam.
Did it effect their street cred? Nope. The robbery incidents and Star interview did that.
Did it effect their sales? Nope. By 2001 the Mobbs kind of music wasn't gonna sell anyway.
And LOL at that pic making P Rick Ross status. You're apeshyt crazy right now. Again, Jay calling P a ballerina was just some funny shyt that had lil effect on Mobb Deep. People laughed for a few weeks and didn't give a fvck about it. People were more concerned with what Jay had to say about Nas at that Summer Jam. And btw, Im old enough and from NYC.
Also...if the lack of information and product being put out by artists had consumers and listeners talking about shyt more, and for a longer period, back in 2001, why didn't 2Pac shytting on the Mobb in 1996 have an effect on the Mobb???? That was 5 years earlier, the internet was much less accessible AND Pac was a much bigger artist in 1996 than Jay was in 2001. None of ya'll nikkas is answering that question...because you can't.
None of yall dudes claiming this corny Jr. High School stunt Jay pulled was super devastating have yet to answer why Pac dissing them, when he was much bigger than Jay was in 2001, didn't effect them. The basis of yall whole argument is that it hurt because Mobb was ALREADY in decline. That's my whole point. Jay shyt did very little to the Mobb. They were already in decline. And this argument that in 2001 the hip hop audience wasn't forgiving is bullshyt. This wasn't the mid 90's. The landscape of rap changed VERY significantly by 2001. Jay showing baby pics is something dudes woulda laughed at for a week and forgot about if the Mobb woulda came back with quality music, which they didn't.
Stop it. Just testament that Takeover had as much, or more, premature bullshyt as Ether.
Not sure how this is even supposed to be a diss at all, its quintessential Jay (smart dumb bullshyt)
It's like Jay would have you believe P went thru his entire life dedicated to being an interpretive dancer, heard the Onyx debut and decided to record shook ones. It be like dissing Jay for "switching his demeanor" and being a drug dealer when he grew up wanting to be a fireman as a 6 year old. No shyt you perspectives change when you are no longer a child.
But then again, this is how Jay fans think, hence why instead of accomplishing anything they rather choose to waste time arguing in threads such as these.
Absolutely. It's crazy. There's dudes in here calling Jay puttin a kiddie pic of Prodigy out iconic, impactful....lol. What world are they in?
Another thing, Eazy E pulled this stunt also but it actually had a significant impact on Dr. Dre's image. He actually had pics of a GROWN MAN in make up and glitter. That actually made a lot people look at Dr. Dre as a studio gangsta.
u mean like how u go around spreadin the stan infested bullsht of Kdot bringing "lyricism" back and changing hip hop forever
a rapper would do something, and it would be talked about for a good 3-4-5 months.. a rapper would announce his album dropping 5 months later, and it would drop that exact date, and be listened to 100 times over before you moved on to a new favorite... beef was anticipated.. nikkas would look like crackheads to find that new clue tape with the diss on it, or grab that new source mag with the disses
i feel like im learning so muchwe remember that happening to P.. getting "put on that summer jam screen" is a known saying in hip hop.. everybody knows what jay did...
does anyone remember ANYTHING P did to impact jay in that way.. or anything that we talk about?