Whats wrong with pushing more Americans to work for lower wages like china does?

[Broke Wave]

If wages were "pushed down" as you or anyone supporting OP agrees with

Will that bring down prices?

Will it reduce the cost of rent? Consumer goods?

Will people afford more or less calories and protein for their children?

Will the government have to pick up the tab of the gap betwen income and basic needs for workers?

 

[88m3]

Hey Nap what's up with the people from the subcontinent btw? The Brits didn't teach them how to make a decent cup of fukking coffee or tea or what?

 

[Red Shield]

If wages were "pushed down" as you or anyone supporting OP agrees with

Will that bring down prices? no

Will it reduce the cost of rent? Consumer goods? nope

Will people afford more or less calories and protein for their children? less

Will the government have to pick up the tab of the gap betwen income and basic needs for workers?govt already does that for walmart workers..so maybe.. probably

Nap is a hegemony ho. He don't care as long as the usa stays op ultimate final boss dawg. And if that means the avg joe gotta go broke ass super poor over here..than..

 

[Cynic]

I don't want to sell people into an underclass.

But come on bro.

The average american is imbued with images of success and leisure with none of the gumption past generations had to actually create that security.

You got people out here who hate entry level work. We all know it exists out here. By virtue of knowing about alternatives, no one feels satisfied and the increased consumer and debt markets have squeezed what could have been meager livings even further down



At what point do we try to get solutions on the table?

I'm not talking about party politics. I'm talking about labor markets.

It's just entitlement which is vindictive of the social changes in the past few decades

When you go from a meritocracy to one that considers feelings ...something will give

You can't ignore social changes such as women being more career orientated now
and people choosing worthless degrees based on old ideals

Technology is forcing industries and labor markets to smarten up..... all government can do is regulate
but sooner or later consumer demand wins at the expense of the workforce/mom and pops

Wholesalers are selling direct to consumer now using the internet and gutting retailers profits

We will reach a point whereby...machines will operate more efficiently than humans

So we'll one day have the super duper rich and the absolutely poor ..... no middle class

Where you end up is entirely up to you ........

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're basically advocating more exploitation of the worker in the richest country without acknowledging corporate welfare and the largest portion of new income going to the richest people. So to counteract that and outsourcing people should just accept the way things are and take slave wages



Production is just what goods is output by something, simple economics.

Would you rather America have those jobs or not?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I mean I'm sure there are people out there who can make a better ice coffee than the ones I buy now who will work for less? Amirite?


With meaningful zoning and health code regulation retooling, employees could just live at work.


Amirite?

Americans want jobs but don't want any of the realities that come with working certain jobs.

Thats what it sounds like to me.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

See, this is were you reveal that you're just a dumbass nap. Chinese wage growth exploded in the past decade, only recently slowing as their economy has done the same. Cc: China Average Yearly Wages | 1952-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

This is just nonsensical verbiage here. How does one lower employment standards(and by what measure? Wages? Workplace Safety? Environmental protections? Benefits?) while maintaining relatively high living standards? What even is employment opportunity here? You're arguing people should expect less from a job, in order to expect more opportunity from a job. This is retarded at best and cynical at worst.

If I'm reading you right, which is tough because you're a remarkably stupid guy, you basically just think everyone should just do like internships until they can be a manager. This is a super great economic model



You gotta get that nap doesn't know the basics on most anything. He just started this thread because he wants attention.

Wages.

Nothing about safety or environmental protections has to change.

Whats funny is that in all these insult laden half-assed retorts you have, its clear you're not interested in helping american workers who are struggling, en masse.

Its that same elitism that allows you all to pretend to have the answers under the guise of "higher standards" when you simply continue to overlook those who make up the silent majority of the labor market.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Nap is a hegemony ho. He don't care as long as the usa stays op ultimate final boss dawg. And if that means the avg joe gotta go broke ass super poor over here..than..

You live here, don't you?

You can't have it both ways.

Globalism is here.

So we have to put people to work. The realize impacts of a shifting labor market outside of the USA is not positive for us.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hey Nap what's up with the people from the subcontinent btw? The Brits didn't teach them how to make a decent cup of fukking coffee or tea or what?

I, again, am not an indian, so I wouldn't know.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If wages were "pushed down" as you or anyone supporting OP agrees with

Will that bring down prices?

Will it reduce the cost of rent? Consumer goods?

Will people afford more or less calories and protein for their children?

Will the government have to pick up the tab of the gap betwen income and basic needs for workers?

It'll lower expectations of what people consider to be a steady job and a livable income.

I know many people whose monthly recurring bills mirror those of people who make 2-3x as much as they do. And its all with the expectation that society has impressed that they need the same things.

Employment is a real thing. Its not something you can just keep pushing in a corner and expect it to stay there while you continue to beat up on it.

At some point, people will have to become satisfied with working a lesser job in favor of mere employment and a steady paycheck than having to live a life they can't afford.

The lore of the middle class has corrupted expectations of a stable lifestyle.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's just entitlement which is vindictive of the social changes in the past few decades

When you go from a meritocracy to one that considers feelings ...something will give

You can't ignore social changes such as women being more career orientated now
and people choosing worthless degrees based on old ideals

Technology is forcing industries and labor markets to smarten up..... all government can do is regulate
but sooner or later consumer demand wins at the expense of the workforce/mom and pops

Wholesalers are selling direct to consumer now using the internet and gutting retailers profits

We will reach a point whereby...machines will operate more efficiently than humans

So we'll one day have the super duper rich and the absolutely poor ..... no middle class

Where you end up is entirely up to you ........

I've got skills and degrees that keep me in demand as an employee. I get it.

But most of us were raised by parents who didn't and who worked jobs that were just openly available.

Now, those same jobs aren't in the USA and people are just magically pretending that they can shift over into something they're not qualified for, don't have the aptitude for, or simply don't deserve.

It doesn't work that way.

The VAST majority of Americans expect too much out of their future careers and haven't owned up to the reality of what a stable job is, looks like, or what their personal futures will resemble under the bright lights of an "idealized" career. Not enough people are settling with what they have and trying to live lives they can't afford.

 

[Robbie3000]

Sometimes it's better not to broadcast every single thought that comes in to your brain

 

[Scoop]

Your average Hillary supporter brehs

 

[Scoop]

This is dangerously alluding to Trumps pitch to the wage class...

This mentality will eventually sell us all into a permanent underclass.

Screaming at the bottom and laughing at the top...

Actually Trump's protectionism looks to prevent exactly what is proposed in this thread.

The neoliberal Hillary who loves outsourcing jobs with trade deals is the one that created the underclass.

 

[hashmander]

It's just entitlement which is vindictive of the social changes in the past few decades

When you go from a meritocracy to one that considers feelings ...something will give

You can't ignore social changes such as women being more career orientated now
and people choosing worthless degrees based on old ideals

Technology is forcing industries and labor markets to smarten up..... all government can do is regulate
but sooner or later consumer demand wins at the expense of the workforce/mom and pops

Wholesalers are selling direct to consumer now using the internet and gutting retailers profits

We will reach a point whereby...machines will operate more efficiently than humans

So we'll one day have the super duper rich and the absolutely poor ..... no middle class

Where you end up is entirely up to you ........

i was with you up until the very end. if you believe that one day we'll only have the super duper rich and the absolutely poor, then where you end up is not entirely up to you. super duper rich is not some status you just put your mind to and achieve.