Whatever happens in games 4-7, can we agree ANALYTICS has proven to be FALSE?

[#SOG_soldier]

The Mavs won a title, and your point doesn't stand because if the Cavs played "2000s isolation" ball like you said they'd lose.

And Since you brought up Iverson, the Sixers were 17-59 from three in the finals vs the Lakers, of that AI was 11 for 39. That means his teammates were attempting 4 threes a game , they may have done better if they surrounded AI with shooters instead of garbage men that could only defend.

JR Smith has taken the same number of threes in 3 games as Iverson's teammates took in 5 games.

how the hell did AI make it to the finals playing with that?



these nba front offices :bhop12:

 

[Originalman]

I'm the biggest fan of post play on here, and the reason why I accept all the 3s is because I know eventually somebody with a devastating post game is going to hit the league, and that person will have a team built around them with tons of 3 point shooting so that doubling them is just retarded and single covering them is just as stupid.

Actually it already happened with the 94 and 95 rockets.

 

[Originalman]

And he in turns probes the defense looking for his shot, or a teammate for the open 3


The Grizz didn't have the shooting to beat the Warriors, no matter how gritty they were, you ain't beating a team like the Warriors if you can't hang with them from the 3 line. So far, the Warriors have made 10 threes per game, the Cavs are at 9, the Grizz were at 4.

If this Cavs team couldn't hit the 3 they'd be getting washed right now, because you could double LeBron without worrying about shooting.

Teams like the 93 suns and 94-95 rockets really began to use the 3 as a weapon. Also Tom Bullwinkle mentioned that back in the day having 4 players outside the 3 line was considered illegal offense. But the league laxed the rules.

In the end the zone defenses being legal in the 2000s and the ability to double people without the ball sped up the three point attempts. Now you got game where a team will shoot 40 threes in a game and it is considered no thing.

I can imagine in the next 20 to 30 years from now teams shooting 60 or more threes in a game.

 

[Colilluminati]

Overreacting fans like you are what makes it hard to have logical sports conversations anymore.

"Let's throw out data from thousands of games and base our entire opinion on the last three games because they are the most recent"

Sorry, but these are the games that matter. You can have a cac type whatever he wants in a computer to build a team. The minute you take away heart and skill it's a wrap. The Cavs are playing basic basketball. Nothing special is going on and this cac Delly is garbage and his defense is not special.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

People forget the mental aspects of it.

Don't care how good GSW was during the season, they were still mentally untested/unproven.

As ap cavs fan I saw it coming. I saw the cavs win 66 games during the season just to get their ass whooped in the playoffs. Regular season record means absolutely nothing. Its about who can execute when it really matters.

 

[Pesci]

People forget the mental aspects of it.

Don't care how good GSW was during the season, they were still mentally untested/unproven.

As ap cavs fan I saw it coming. I saw the cavs win 66 games during the season just to get their ass whooped in the playoffs. Regular season record means absolutely nothing. Its about who can execute when it really matters.

Yeah Tristan Thompson, Dellevadova, Mozgov, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, Shumpert, JR Smith have all logged tons of playoff minutes. Their experience really showed during this run.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They aren't guarantees just probabilities..

They cant factor in delly diving for lose balls.. Well atlest not yet

Why can't everybody comprehend this? This board continues to work on absolute reasoning.

Basically....people only hate the term now because its being used as the end all be all. Such as saying that the warriors are one of the greatest teams of all time based on analytics and treating it as fact. When you can easily name at least 20 teams that would give this warrior team that work and that's just in recent times.

This is bullshyt. Nobody that uses "analytics" disregards luck, and all the other intangibles that come into play.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yeah Tristan Thompson, Dellevadova, Mozgov, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, Shumpert, JR Smith have all logged tons of playoff minutes. Their experience really showed during this run.

These dudes shooting themselves in the foot with their own argument.

 

[Loose]

Analytics tell me that the warriors suck on the boards and drawing contact at the rim and guess whats happening ?

 

[Pesci]

These dudes shooting themselves in the foot with their own argument.

I think playoff experience does have value, but it's a weird thing to bring up in this case. Unless I'm missing someone obvious, the only Cavs players getting minutes who have significant playoff experience are LeBron, James Jones, and Mike Miller.

 

[Draje]

There isn't an analytics user alive who doesn't use "washemplae" to get a full understanding of the stats in question.

Analytics says that the most efficient scoring comes from the paint or the three. The Cavs are doing most of their damage from collapsing the paint and Lebrob being an all time great talent.

 

[jwinfield]

duncan is a traditional back to the basket big. how is that an analytical dream? analytics nerds want stretch 4s like Dirk not back to the basket bigs like Duncan.

Argue against something you that know nothing about brehs.

 

[Propaganda]

It's TheColi, math be damned :RedGodGrill:

it's not even just the math. his argument has an additional wrinkle of stupidity because it's not like everyone was picking the warriors solely on analytics. people looked the rosters, the talent level, the style of play, match-ups, etc.

this cornball just wants to narrow it down to the one thing he's trying to crusade against...and he's the reason he's crusading against analytics is because they generally aren't in kobe's favor. that's how much a fakkit he is.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yeah Tristan Thompson, Dellevadova, Mozgov, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, Shumpert, JR Smith have all logged tons of playoff minutes. Their experience really showed during this run.

The leader of their team has. Their coach has. The guys stepping in and keeping their composure like mike miller and James jones has.

Golden state literally has nobody that's been under this amount of pressure and it shows from the coach on down.

 

[Pesci]

The leader of their team has. Their coach has. The guys stepping in and keeping their composure like mike miller and James jones has.

Golden state literally has nobody that's been under this amount of pressure and it shows from the coach on down.

now Blatt's international experience is suddenly credible

meanwhile, Kerr's championships mean nothing