Essential what physique are you ultimately trying to achieve?

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This is great physique
 

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I consider this jacked and lean, but not ripped.

Goal is to have as much lean mass as possible while maintaining ab definition.
 

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to see the lie that is steroids.

go watch the Arnold aerobics video and read the beginners guide to bodybuilding by Arnold. He pretty much in so many words and visuals.
tells you how big you can really get on no gear.

which is only six lean pounds of real muscles a year.
which Arnold states and also mentions why gear is used in so many words.
which leads me to say all fitness feels to be coded for guys on gear.

so past the first Arnold beginner book and the aerobic Arnold vid. I feel all visible fitness people are in on it.

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this is starter pack in gear physique.
after he more than likely recovered from wearing that black top era from gyno.



Art Barr

I have naturally big thighs like Rock. So if I were to get in great shape, I can pull it off
 
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