What PG was better than Steve Nash in the last 30 years?

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Magic, Isiah, Stockton, and even Kevin Johnson>>>>>Nash

And career wise, Kidd was consistently better.


Nash from '04-'07 was equal to or slightly above Kidd.Kidd was better on D and running the fastbreak, but as far as distributing in the half court, and efficiency, Nash had him beat in that regard.In his prime, Nash's J was automatic.That's what made the pick & roll between him & Amare the best since Stockton & Malone.You had to bite on Nash coming off the screen.You can make the argument that Nash is quite possibly the best shooter the league has ever seen.Not the prettiest or most dynamic J, but if it left his hand, it was money.

I'm just say, you could make the argument......It's not all that far fetched IMO

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Magic is the only one who rivals his impact on offense and since I only care about offense from a PG, he's as good as any. Goat level shooter, facilitator, And a good scorer.

Every team he played on in his prime was GOAT level on offense

Rank Year Team eORtg Offense
1 2007 Phoenix Suns 116 3.25
2 2005 Phoenix Suns 116.1 2.92
3 1971 Milwaukee Bucks 108.2 2.72
4 2010 Phoenix Suns 116.4 2.59
5 1982 Denver Nuggets 113.4 2.56
6 2004 Dallas Mavericks 110.8 2.49
7 1975 Houston Rockets 104.1 2.4
8 1987 Los Angeles Lakers 115.9 2.34
9 2004 Sacramento Kings 110.3 2.33
10 2006 Phoenix Suns 113.1 2.31
11 2009 Phoenix Suns 114.4 2.13
12 1988 Boston Celtics 114.7 2.12
13 1998 Seattle Supersonics 113.2 2.07
14 1996 Chicago Bulls 116.3 2.02
15 1985 Los Angeles Lakers 114.6 2.01
16 1978 San Antonio Spurs 106.8 2
17 1995 Seattle Supersonics 116 2
18 2004 Seattle Supersonics 109.3 1.99
19 2002 Dallas Mavericks 110.4 1.98

7 are Nash anchored teams. According to NBA.com, From 02-10, Steve Nash's offensive teams were ranked #1 every single year in offensive rating. 9 straight years of #1 offenses

....Interesting stat.I never knew that

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

People saying Payton, but he's overrated as pg.He was more of a combo guard IMO.

Same goes with Iverson.They both only averaged about 6 apg for their career.

Payton became a better ball distributor in his later years.Especially when the Sonics hired Paul Westphal back in '98.He ran a run & gun offense and Payton had his best years playing in that system.

The Sonics were shyt, but Payton put up some good stats.


But I've never seen Payton as a pure pg.He's more like Chauncey Billups.They're combo guards who can pass a lil bit

 

[NatiboyB]

Let me play.

magic, Kidd, Isiah, Paul, Rose, AI, KJ, Tim Hardaway, GP.

 

[7oclock]

Magic is the only one who rivals his impact on offense and since I only care about offense from a PG, he's as good as any. Goat level shooter, facilitator, And a good scorer.

Every team he played on in his prime was GOAT level on offense

Rank Year Team eORtg Offense
1 2007 Phoenix Suns 116 3.25
2 2005 Phoenix Suns 116.1 2.92
3 1971 Milwaukee Bucks 108.2 2.72
4 2010 Phoenix Suns 116.4 2.59
5 1982 Denver Nuggets 113.4 2.56
6 2004 Dallas Mavericks 110.8 2.49
7 1975 Houston Rockets 104.1 2.4
8 1987 Los Angeles Lakers 115.9 2.34
9 2004 Sacramento Kings 110.3 2.33
10 2006 Phoenix Suns 113.1 2.31
11 2009 Phoenix Suns 114.4 2.13
12 1988 Boston Celtics 114.7 2.12
13 1998 Seattle Supersonics 113.2 2.07
14 1996 Chicago Bulls 116.3 2.02
15 1985 Los Angeles Lakers 114.6 2.01
16 1978 San Antonio Spurs 106.8 2
17 1995 Seattle Supersonics 116 2
18 2004 Seattle Supersonics 109.3 1.99
19 2002 Dallas Mavericks 110.4 1.98

7 are Nash anchored teams. According to NBA.com, From 02-10, Steve Nash's offensive teams were ranked #1 every single year in offensive rating. 9 straight years of #1 offenses

thank you for the holy message and the advanced stats.

 

[7oclock]

How many rings did he lead his team to?

0

 

[Remote]

Running around the court, Nash was great.
In a slow-tempo half-court game, I doubt he was better than Mark Price.

 

[7oclock]

Running around the court, Nash was great.
In a slow-tempo half-court game, I doubt he was better than Mark Price.

what are you basing this off of? LOL@doubt he wasa better than Mark Price - like Mark Price was some sort of scrub.

 

[Remote]

what are you basing this off of? LOL@doubt he wasa better than Mark Price - like Mark Price was some sort of scrub.

Mark Price was a great PG.
But he didn't have the athleticism that Nash had.

All things being equal, Price was better.

I mention him because nobody on the coli even remembers Mark Price.

 

[7oclock]

Mark Price was a great PG.
But he didn't have the athleticism that Nash had.

All things being equal, Price was better.

I mention him because nobody on the coli even remembers Mark Price.

you just said that he would Mark Price - as if Mark Price sucked - at least that what it sounded like. Now you're saying Price is better.

Neither statement is true however but I do give Mark Price kudos, he was definitely a top 10 PG in the 80s/90s while he was playing.

 

[Remote]

you just said that he would Mark Price - as if Mark Price sucked - at least that what it sounded like. Now you're saying Price is better.

Neither statement is true however but I do give Mark Price kudos, he was definitely a top 10 PG in the 80s/90s while he was playing.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Mark Price was a great PG.
But he didn't have the athleticism that Nash had.

All things being equal, Price was better.

I mention him because nobody on the coli even remembers Mark Price.

yup price was just as good a shooter, and much better defensively. this guy overrating nash needs to be slapped

 

[JAY?]

Kidd couldn't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag

Nash did shoot better
But that was it
Kidd was a much better defender and rebounder

 

[7oclock]

yup price was just as good a shooter, and much better defensively. this guy overrating nash needs to be slapped

Are you sick? LMFAO - Price couldn't hold Nash's jockstrap.

2x MVP

hardware > software

 

[7oclock]

Nash did shoot better
But that was it
Kidd was a much better defender and rebounder

because that's what I want my PG doing, rebounding