by getting everybody together and explaining to them that they have to change or adapt or die
What is white flight and why is it so effective?
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by getting everybody together and explaining to them that they have to change or adapt or die
Brown_Pride
All Star
riiiggghhhhtttt.
And you're going to do that how exactly? Have a large meeting? Perhaps an email? Chain letters? And what of those who think you're full of shyt?
I don't have an answer btw, but something tells me "telling everyone to change or die" isn't gonna cut it.
the video is of a group of people whose grand parents travelled from the south to Detroit.. become middle class , moved into Detroit's nice areas. White flight happened.. and that's pretty much the resulting culture of Detroit.
I guess you can get young black and brown people together and say... fix your culture, lol.... as a matter of fact "you see those white kids right there.. act like them"
Or you can realize that those same kids can earn advanced degrees and 6 figures before 30 and Still keep their 'culture'. Or they can open up businesses, become teachers or whatever and still be themselves. The real causes of poverty and ignorance have nothing to do with 'culture'... everything to do with social factors, disenfranchisement... The solution is for young adults to put in work to fix it. Real work, like non profits, and mentorship programs.. not bullshyt like "don't be u. ."
I guess you can get young black and brown people together and say... fix your culture, lol.... as a matter of fact "you see those white kids right there.. act like them"
Or you can realize that those same kids can earn advanced degrees and 6 figures before 30 and Still keep their 'culture'. Or they can open up businesses, become teachers or whatever and still be themselves. The real causes of poverty and ignorance have nothing to do with 'culture'... everything to do with social factors, disenfranchisement... The solution is for young adults to put in work to fix it. Real work, like non profits, and mentorship programs.. not bullshyt like "don't be u. ."
well the point is its done through community action, if the community doesnt do it, then the community will suffer or die, the onus is on the community
there are outside forces but you have to develop a plan and capability to fight outside forces, a plan that doesnt depend on the forces that caused your problem in the first place
the first thing we need to do is IMO is realize that "white flight" isnt really a bad thing, in fact it opens up opportunities for black people...that is if we have a plan
NZA
LOL
what have they been doing about all the homeless and prostitutes in downtown phoenix? in tempe they welcome them, LOL
my mom got a house on 16th and baseline with an adjustable mortgage and had to get out when she couldnt get a refinance for a fixed one.
NZA
LOL
it's bad for the first minorities who move there when the whites were still present. their home investment loses value. they are stuck with a severe loss in wealth and a serious choice that has to be made about cutting losses and leaving, or staying and trying to be the backbone of the hood. the financial toll it takes on that first wave of minorities can send even educated people on a dangerous downward spiral.
i agree, the reason for that is that there is a lack of critical mass, there are plenty of educated minorities but no critical mass, so the issue is how do you get a critical mass of educated people when white people start moving out
that is what we as black people have to confront, my point is that white liberalism isnt the solution, and even describing it as "white flight" is problematic because it presumes the solution is to be found in white people
You have a lot of nerve invoking asians and jews relative to the black experience, when Japanese and Jews fought for and received reparations for the harm inflicted on their group. Your irony none withstanding, its not my intention to advance a discussion on reparations, rather Im dispelling the notion that there is some dishonor in a group demanding accountability from the extreme mistreatment at the hands of another group. Your rhetoric smacks of insecurity, and Im sure there wasnt this widespread idea that Jews were looking to Germans as "saviors", when demanding reparations. Same for the Japanese.
There are tangled pathologies owed to the dysfunctions of black communities. jews and asians immigrated here willingly, and have maintained ties to their homeland and culture. Blacks were enslaved and legally forbade in acknowledging their history for centuries. These arent easily fixable issues, and our recent history as a racial category has reflected this. We need mature, sound minds to contribute to these discussions. Not homophobic, misogynistic trolls.
exactly, I could give two shyts who my neighbors are as long as they are professionals, intellectuals, or reasonably educated rationale adults....white flight is when white people move out of certain areas
but what happens is that the economics of a city or town is really determined by the level of education of the community, white people tend to be more educated so when they leave the people left are less educated and not able to keep up the area
but IMO black people need to stopover white flight, its a free country and people should live wherever they want to live, i think black people already lost just by
instead we need to focus our attention inward and focusing on developing our education systems and our areas
Insensitive
Superstar
Linking government intervention to relying on "Duh White Peeples",
is monumentally stupid.
Oh and pretending shyt like "Separate but equal" just never existed
is also dumb.There are REASONS as to why we have historically black institutions that are
analogous to the white ones and much of it is because of outright sabotage or
denial of services that "Whites" took advantage of.
Most of what we see now is just the generational effects of what happened decades
ago, you don't look at the present whilst ignoring the past.
Trying to boil complex social issues down to "Dey Jus Needz an Educashun Minded
Colcher" is
And I say this without excusing anyone who's a criminal or a highschool dropout or in
some other situation that could severely hamper their attempts at future employment.
is monumentally stupid.
Oh and pretending shyt like "Separate but equal" just never existed
is also dumb.There are REASONS as to why we have historically black institutions that are
analogous to the white ones and much of it is because of outright sabotage or
denial of services that "Whites" took advantage of.
Most of what we see now is just the generational effects of what happened decades
ago, you don't look at the present whilst ignoring the past.
Trying to boil complex social issues down to "Dey Jus Needz an Educashun Minded
Colcher" is
And I say this without excusing anyone who's a criminal or a highschool dropout or in
some other situation that could severely hamper their attempts at future employment.
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in other words you think white people are the key to black prosperity
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Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
@theworldismine13 are you suggesting we segregate ourselves from whites in this country?
White people using our people and owing us reparations and also desegregation happened so whatever we do will involve them somewhat.
White people using our people and owing us reparations and also desegregation happened so whatever we do will involve them somewhat.
@theworldismine13 are you suggesting we segregate ourselves from whites in this country?
Desegregation happened so whatever we do will involve them somewhat.
segregation is neither here nor there, im just suggesting that the black community or communities can develop economic plans without white people
and im saying a more accurate description of white flight is the flight of educated people
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
We can but what's so bad about demanding what we are owe?
Why shouldn't we demand our reparations?