What is the exact PROOF that Lebron is a better "all-round" player than Jordan? Stats say otherwise

[Pimp]

Wow you read my mind and posted that video before me The thing is that video does not even address def 3 second violation only handchecking but thats enough to prove this "zone defense" BS.

@ISO 's job is to sidetrack threads when his daddy Lebron is feeling the heat. Newsflash. Lebron doesn't give a fukk about you. There are some good Lebron fans on this forum but you're the worst bronsexual on here.

They actually played zone defense back in the day and it looked like man defense so refs never called it..

 

[Pimp]

Stop posting goofy ass videos.

Giannis got Iocked up by a zone in the playoffs last season.

MJ hated zones. KG, T-Mac, Iverson, Duncan all spoke against the zone.

They used the the same defense that was used on MJ.. It will never work again because there's always someone WIDE OPEN. YOU KEEP PROVING YOURSELF RETARDED. GIANNIS AINT IN HIS PRIME YET.

 

[ISO]

They used the the same defense that was used on MJ.. It will never work again because there's always someone WIDE OPEN. YOU KEEP PROVING YOURSELF RETARDED. GIANNIS AINT IN HIS PRIME YET.

Yeah and a team like Raptors is capable of recovering to shooters and sometimes shooters are just flat out cold.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Expansion era:

Some of the best teams Jordan had to beat were expansion team. Orlando and Miami were expansion teams that won in excess of 60+ games and Orlando was ridiculously stacked.

"Zone" is nonsense in this era of 3 ball. There is far too much space between the lines for zone defense to be reliable. Teams in today's NBA play man to man just because of the insane spacing. Its basically man to man like in Jordan's era today. But without handchecking and with the new defensive 3 second violation rule

You're just repeating myths. But "intelligent" response to the thread i guess:

You got it flipped, homie. Teams started shooting more 3's because there was no more space inside with the new defensive rules.

Anyway, saw 1 sentence in your OP "Bron not a better passer" and immediately determined the rest wasn't possibly worth reading.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

You got it flipped, homie. Teams started shooting more 3's because there was no more space inside with the new defensive rules.

Anyway, saw 1 sentence in your OP "Bron not a better passer" and immediately determined the rest wasn't possibly worth reading.

That's your loss. Lebron has had the ball in his hands throughout his career and only averaged 7.2 apg for his career. Jordan would have averaged more if he was playing point guard/point forward throughout his career.

Go to my Youtube channel and watch Jordan's performance in the 6 game playoff series vs the Knicks in 1989 when he played Lebron's position. He played that position like he was god.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

That's your loss. Lebron has had the ball in his hands throughout his career and only averaged 7.2 ppg for his career. Jordan would have averaged more if he was playing point guard/point forward throughout his career.

Go to my Youtube channel and watch Jordan's performance in the 6 game playoff series vs the Knicks in 1989 when he played Lebron's position. He played that position like he was god.

Go to your youtube channel?

I don't even wanna read your drivel, you think I want to hear it with visuals?

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

Go to your youtube channel?

I don't even wanna read your drivel, you think I want to hear it with visuals?

Im talking about watching actual NBA playoff games, dumbo. Not my commentary. You bron fans are so brainwashed, its stupid. Anything against your pre-concieved narratives possibly can never be true.

7.2 ppg is nothing special for a point forward with the ball in his hands. Doncic with a similar style of play and position to Lebron was averaging 10 apg this season

 

[ISO]

This dumb ass is framing passing ability by assists per game

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Im talking about watching actual NBA playoff games, dumbo. Not my commentary. You bron fans are so brainwashed, its stupid. Anything against your pre-concieved narratives possibly can never be true.

7.2 ppg is nothing special for a point forward with the ball in his hands. Doncic with a similar style of play and position to Lebron was averaging 10 apg this season

First of all, it apg, not ppg. You typed it twice, first one maybe a typo. Second time? Nah I was right, this guy knows NOTHING about basketball.

Then you mention Luka's assists when LeBron was leading the league this year.

Lastly, even without recording assists it's clear as day to any onlooker that LeBron is a better passer. He's one of the best the game has ever seen.




Listen to your father:

 

[Mad Good Dro]

Im talking about watching actual NBA playoff games, dumbo. Not my commentary. You bron fans are so brainwashed, its stupid. Anything against your pre-concieved narratives possibly can never be true.

7.2 ppg is nothing special for a point forward with the ball in his hands. Doncic with a similar style of play and position to Lebron was averaging 10 apg this season

nikka Doncic has a damn near 40% usage rate this season at 37% while bron is leading the league in assists this season with only 31% Usage rate. This myth that bron has the ball in his hands 24/7 gotta stop.

 

[ISO]

LeBron has the highest career assist and season average for a non-guard in NBA history yet it’s nothing special

LeBron is playing point guard and leading the league in assists this year in year 17

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

First of all, it apg, not ppg. You typed it twice, first one maybe a typo. Second time? Nah I was right, this guy knows NOTHING about basketball.

Then you mention Luka's assists when LeBron was leading the league this year.

Lastly, even without recording assists it's clear as day to any onlooker that LeBron is a better passer. He's one of the best the game has ever seen.




Listen to your father:

Okay, I mistyped. I clearly said 10 apg in the same comment. Jordan is also one of the best passers the game has ever seen. You don't even know that.

In Jordan's first game playing as a point guard , he had 17 assists Chicago Bulls at Portland Trail Blazers Box Score, March 24, 1989 | Basketball-Reference.com

That 17 assists for Lebron will be clear 2nd most he's ever had in his ENTIRE career and Jordan did it in his 1st ever game playing PG. He then had 10 triple doubles in his first 11 games as a PG. So maybe you're clueless as to Jordan's passing ability because you're arguing blindly and you don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen Jordan make passes even Lebron will find hard pressed to make.

The funny thing is in my inital 1st post on this thread, nowhere did I explicitly say Jordan was a better passer thna Lebron , if you actually go back and read it carefully. But fanboys like you are so much into celebrity worship and a cult of personality, you're too much of a stan to hear anything otherwise. You already stated as such in your first response to me that you didn't even read it. Then why comment here? Its unfortunate.

 

[ISO]

LeBron had a stretch playing PG when Mo Williams went down in 2010 and averaged like 30 points and 12 assists this is no cap

 

[Mad Good Dro]

Okay, I mistyped. I clearly said 10 apg in the same comment. Jordan is also one of the best passers the game has ever seen. You don't even know that.

In Jordan's first game playing as a point guard , he had 17 assists Chicago Bulls at Portland Trail Blazers Box Score, March 24, 1989 | Basketball-Reference.com

That 17 assists for Lebron will be clear 2nd most he's ever had in his ENTIRE career and Jordan did it in his 1st ever game playing PG. He then had 10 triple doubles in his first 11 games as a PG. So maybe you're clueless as to Jordan's passing ability because you're arguing blindly and you don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen Jordan make passes even Lebron will find hard pressed to make.

The funny thing is in my inital 1st post on this thread, nowhere did I explicitly say Jordan was a better passer thna Lebron , if you actually go back and read it carefully. But fanboys like you are so much into celebrity worship and a cult of personality, you're too much of a stan to hear anything otherwise. You already stated as such in your first response to me that you didn't even read it. Then why comment here? Its unfortunate.

Jordan has never done anything close to this, This is why bron is a better all around player. /Thread

 

[Cyber]

They used to disguise zones back then, it's like how they don't always call holding in football they didn't always call illegal defense

The defensive 3 second (which also isn't always called) makes it harder for a true zone to be run

MJ had a GOAT tier midrange game, zone would not hurt him as much as it's made out to be, he'd shoot over that shyt like Kobe used to vs Spurs. Zone is used on guys with subpar jumpers that don't really have a plan B or C, MJ was not that at all: he had a move, a counter, and a counter to that counter. Great video (from a great series) by Drew Hanlen discussing this

When Jordan made those comments about zone it was in the context of post friendly poorly spaced 90s and early 00s. I really doubt MJ would have said the same in the context of today's NBA where the offensive player has a massive advantage especially as primary ball handler