What is the exact PROOF that Lebron is a better "all-round" player than Jordan? Stats say otherwise

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KD never joins the Warriors/Bron 3peats and things are spooky around here


He had to make that move tho :manny:


Its funny how Durant is the only one allowed to join a Super team and win championships. When Durant did it, its :bryan: When Lebron does it in Miami its :obama: Which one is it?

And this tweet about Durant's head to head vs Lebron. As if Durant wasn't on a clearly inferior team during most of those OKC vs Cavs/Miami matchups. :sas2:
 

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Yeah the Eastern Conference was a juggernaut breh those stats are amazing. They were definitely going to 3 peat or at the very least repeat :skip:
So long as we agree :troll:
That's the year I.T. got injured in the playoffs :shaq2:

Cavs were an offensive juggernaut but their defense sucked. If KD stayed in OKC, I could have seen him winning this year.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm still a big believer in the gravity lf Steph/Klay allowed for him to ease into that offense and not break a sweat. OKC, Boston or Washington would have had issues with Cleveland that 1st year. Now that 2nd year? Would be a toss up.
 
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Its funny how Durant is the only one allowed to join a Super team and win championships. When Durant did it, its :bryan: When Lebron does it in Miami its :obama: Which one is it?

And this tweet about Durant's head to head vs Lebron. As if Durant wasn't on a clearly inferior team during most of those OKC vs Cavs/Miami matchups. :sas2:
The presumed gap between LeBron's teams and Durant's teams wasn't large enough to warrant only 4 regular season victories in a 8 year stretch. OKC was an elite team and a perennial title contender.

The fact of the matter is that when LeBron and KD faced up. LeBron was usually the better overall player.
 
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So LeBron is "only" better than MJ at passing, distributing, 3pt shooting, and everything that has to do with size (rebounding, defending bigs, protecting the rim, etc.)

I ain't got reason to argue that. :manny:

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Well you'll think if Lebron was really so much better than the GOAT at all these things, he won't be 3-6 in the Finals
 

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Well you'll think if Lebron was really so much better than the GOAT at all these things, he won't be 3-6 in the Finals

That's a stupid graphic, and for the record, no Bron Stan swears that Bron is greater than Mike, we just rebuke that there was this gap between the two that Mike was significantly better...
 

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Back to pretending Durant played on washed teams in OKC lmao...
The only thing I can fault Presti for is letting Harden go and not surrounding them with better shooters over the year. They used to not have a post presence but they fixed that when they acquired Kanter and Adams developed.

Sefolosha and Roberson, great defensive players but them dudes couldn't shoot especially Roberson :scust:

Other than that KD was playing with an elite HoF level guard in Westbrook and a DPoY candidate in Ibaka with solid role players every year. They were an elite squad and were in it with a chance to win it multiple years.
 
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Back to pretending Durant played on washed teams in OKC lmao...

He didn't play on washed teams but let's be real

(1) 2007/08 : Seattle (20-62) vs Cleveland (45-37)
(2) 2008/09 : OKC (23-59) vs Cleveland (66-16)
(3) 2009/10 : OKC (50-32) vs Cleveland (61-21)
(4) 2010/11 : OKC (55-27) vs Miami (58-24)


Lebron kind of had the better team for their first 8-10 encounters and its not like Lebron was outplaying him:

Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James | Basketball-Reference.com

Their stats are almost identical.
 

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He didn't play on washed teams but let's be real

(1) 2007/08 : Seattle (20-62) vs Cleveland (45-37)
(2) 2008/09 : OKC (23-59) vs Cleveland (66-16)
(3) 2009/10 : OKC (50-32) vs Cleveland (61-21)
(4) 2010/11 : OKC (55-27) vs Miami (58-24)


Lebron kind of had the better team for their first 8-10 encounters and its not like Lebron was outplaying him:

Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James | Basketball-Reference.com

Their stats are almost identical.
Better team equates better record though?, because yes OKC won 50 games compared to Clevelands 61 but that Cleveland team was garbage :mjlol:
 

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He didn't play on washed teams but let's be real

(1) 2007/08 : Seattle (20-62) vs Cleveland (45-37)
(2) 2008/09 : OKC (23-59) vs Cleveland (66-16)
(3) 2009/10 : OKC (50-32) vs Cleveland (61-21)
(4) 2010/11 : OKC (55-27) vs Miami (58-24)


Lebron kind of had the better team for their first 8-10 encounters and its not like Lebron was outplaying him:

Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James | Basketball-Reference.com

Their stats are almost identical.
Outside of those early few years both teams were on an even playing field. And prime LeBron was elevating those Cleveland teams in ways KD could never. In 2011 they were literally separated by 3 regular season wins and it's why you stopped there because OKC won more regular season games in 2012, was a 60 win team themselves in 2013, won more games in 2014, and were pretty much even in 2016.

KD matches LeBron's scoring and trails him in every other aspect of the game statistically which is pretty much what we've always known. There's no excuse for 4 regular season wins against LeBron in 8 years. :mjlol:
 

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The only thing I can fault Presti for is letting Harden go and not surrounding them with better shooters over the year. They used to not have a post presence but they fixed that when they acquired Kanter and Adams developed.

Sefolosha and Roberson, great defensive players but them dudes couldn't shoot especially Roberson :scust:

Other than that KD was playing with an elite HoF level guard in Westbrook and a DPoY candidate in Ibaka with solid role players every year. They were an elite squad and were in it with a chance to win it multiple years.

100, it was WIDELY considered that OKC was an annual title favorite every year. Only on here do you get this "baby Thunder" shyt, those dudes were balling and there was a half-decade stretch they coulda won it all in any season...

He didn't play on washed teams but let's be real

(1) 2007/08 : Seattle (20-62) vs Cleveland (45-37)
(2) 2008/09 : OKC (23-59) vs Cleveland (66-16)
(3) 2009/10 : OKC (50-32) vs Cleveland (61-21)
(4) 2010/11 : OKC (55-27) vs Miami (58-24)


Lebron kind of had the better team for their first 8-10 encounters and its not like Lebron was outplaying him:

Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James | Basketball-Reference.com

Their stats are almost identical.

The difference between KD and Bron, pre-GS, was LeBron was closing those H2Hs in games the two squads were routinely equal...

What exactly is stupid about it other than the fact you disagree?

The fact that they were both the best players in The League regardless of position. Nobody was saying "I wonder what LeBron's FT% among SFs is" lol, obviously somebody had to go digging to portray this gap between the two as bigger than it actually is...
 

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The brehs were right, this is DEFINITELY the guy from the Nobody Touches Jordan website. The degree of dysfunction is exactly the same. :heh:


What exactly is stupid about it other than the fact you disagree?
First off, it's completely wrong. LBJ is first all-time among SF scoring, MJ is only 2nd among SG. I'm betting the rest of those numbers are wrong too.

Second, they're ranked against completely different players from each other and then those numbers are lined up as if they mean ANYTHING. :mjlol:

The rankings don't even mean shyt in isolation because those positions changed completely in different eras and at different times

By the end of his career you could put Russ Westbrook's career numbers ranked against PG's and compare them to Tim Duncan's career numbers ranked against PF's or Hakeem's numbers ranked against centers or Bird's numbers ranked against SF's, and come up with the idea that Westbrook was a better all-around player than Duncan or Bird or Hakeem. But that would be an IDIOTIC way to compare them. :mindblown:
 
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