What do HL's muslims think about the murder of cartoonists for drawing mohammed

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its simple. You take a culture that has one rule and you break it, blood will be shed. You dont take a trip to israel and start having nazi parties bumping hitler dubstep remixes. everybody has their line, no matter how silly it seems to everyone else

I laughed. :obama: These cats just dont get it.
 

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These are 2 separate issues. If you think there is a parallel between drawing cartoons and protesting abuse at the hands of demonic cacs well i guess we live in different dimensions of thought. Still, if you feel the lives lost drawing muhammed at worth it in the scheme of things, well thats your opinion. I dont think they are and i doubt you believe it enough to draw him yourself.

I obviously don't think there's a parallel between drawing Mohammed cartoons and protesting racism.

There is, however, a parellel between condoning anti-freedom savagery in one context, and condoning it in another, because if you believe that said savagery is self-justified and "reality" in one context, you can't switch up the standards in other situations. Like I said, by your logic, "demonic cacs" lynching Black folks for protesting was ok if they knew that provoking the white people would result in it, and since ideals are just pieces of paper, after all, and not principles to live by.
 
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It all comes down to Worshipping a man by pretending they don't worship a man.

"bu-bu-bu-but you cant draw his picture because people might worship him bu-bu-but I'll kill you for disrespecting him". Some dumb primitive shyt.

Our Muslim brother equated his religion with that of a gang, and was proud of showcasing his incapacity to understand enlightenment principles of freedom of ideas, to the point of bragging about violence. That's All you need to know right there about that.

The entire history of the world is that of tribes clans gangs sects etc that shared common beliefs; in this case it involves the ummah of Muhammad .. U missed my point. If I draw a disrespectful pic of Moses or Jesus and a Jew or Christian attacks me I had it coming. What was the intent of the pic. Disrespectful pics of Muhammad should be considered hate speech.
 

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The entire history of the world is that of tribes clans gangs sects etc that shared common beliefs; in this case it involves the ummah of Muhammad .. U missed my point. If I draw a disrespectful pic of Moses or Jesus and a Jew or Christian attacks me I had it coming. What was the intent of the pic. Disrespectful pics of Muhammad should be considered hate speech.

So where do you draw the line? If a Muslim women is walking around Arkansas wearing a hijab, do redneck christian bigots have the right to beat her if they feel she is disrespecting their cultural and religious beliefs? Who then gets to determine what is disrespectful?

That shyt ain't going to cut it in the West breh. You can apply for asylum over in your adopted religion's homeland. They have laws and a moral system that suits you better. Except they won't take you. You'll never be a real Muslim to them because you aren't an Arab.
 

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I obviously don't think there's a parallel between drawing Mohammed cartoons and protesting racism.

There is, however, a parellel between condoning anti-freedom savagery in one context, and condoning it in another, because if you believe that said savagery is self-justified and "reality" in one context, you can't switch up the standards in other situations. Like I said, by your logic, "demonic cacs" lynching Black folks for protesting was ok if they knew that provoking the white people would result in it, and since ideals are just pieces of paper, after all, and not principles to live by.

Your fight isnt with me. Its with the people shooting those cartoonist in the head. Cacs arent trying to help the world by drawing muhammed. They are trying to rile up muslims and im sorry but i have no feelings for people that try to do that sort of thing. If they want to change things theres only a few things they can do.

1. sacrafice more cartoonists in hopes that maybe muslims will stop bodying them.
2. talk to some clerical leader and beg them to not body them for drawing muhammed
3. destroy islam.

Waging war on the-coli.com is useless because none of use really give a fukk about these cac cartoonists.
 

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The entire history of the world is that of tribes clans gangs sects etc that shared common beliefs; in this case it involves the ummah of Muhammad .. U missed my point. If I draw a disrespectful pic of Moses or Jesus and a Jew or Christian attacks me I had it coming. What was the intent of the pic. Disrespectful pics of Muhammad should be considered hate speech.

Well who's to determine what's deemed disrespectful. Tell me if I'm wrong, but Muslims view any picture of Muhammad as disrespectful. So for you to say that some sort of context matters seems a bit naive to me.

We happen to live in a society where no topic is really sacred from jokes or ridicule. Sure, a comedian might make a joke in poor taste, but we usually don't call for that persons head on a plate. In our culture, someone can say the most horrible shyt about you, and you are in no way justified in taking that persons life ... or even beating them up or anything like that.

Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a society where someone is free to kill you if you happen to say something offensive about something they love. But I guess I hold different values than the rest of you.
 

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Well who's to determine what's deemed disrespectful. Tell me if I'm wrong, but Muslims view any picture of Muhammad as disrespectful. So for you to say that some sort of context matters seems a bit naive to me.

We happen to live in a society where no topic is really sacred from jokes or ridicule. Sure, a comedian might make a joke in poor taste, but we usually don't call for that persons head on a plate. In our culture, someone can say the most horrible shyt about you, and you are in no way justified in taking that persons life ... or even beating them up or anything like that.

Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a society where someone is free to kill you if you happen to say something offensive about something they love. But I guess I hold different values than the rest of you.
i feel you. i personally dont endorse this retalitory behavior from these muslims, but at the same time the provocative and spiteful nature of these drawings isn't going to coax them into letting it go either. both sides have to agree to end the foolishness cooperatively
 

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i feel you. i personally dont endorse this retalitory behavior from these muslims, but at the same time the provocative and spiteful nature of these drawings isn't going to coax them into letting it go either. both sides have to agree to end the foolishness cooperatively

Satire, Mocking and Criticism are valid parts of a free and civilized society.

Violence is a crime.

Don't equate the two.
 
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