What cause the disappearance of black female singing superstars?

[ViShawn]

Beyonce always sounded average to me too. Most her songs sound the same to me.

Can't hate on the black empire that is B and Jay Z though but I was talking from a musical perspective.

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

I was just saying this last week, but not only about female r&b singers, but r&b singers in general. What the fukk happened to r&b groups? The 90s was filled with r&b groups who had that one classic fukking song that still gets played today. There's not a single r&b group today making any noise.

And male r&b singers? Who do we have today? Chris soo wu beat the shyt out of rihanna fukking brown who aint singing no love songs to any chick. R&b ain't shyt today. R&b is basically rap. Hearing "nikka" in an r&b song "hoe" in an r&b song

And i like rihanna more than beyonce but they shouldn't be the only 2 females making r&b. shyt is pathetic. One is a fake feminist who promotes misandry and tells chicks to be independent and leave their men the first sign of trouble, but lets her husband cheat on her. The other drops nothing but heat but is a thot queen who would make me send my daughter to the most remote boarding school in Africa to avoid her music.

 

[Standing on business]

Beyonce always sounded average to me too. Most her songs sound the same to me.

Can't hate on the black empire that is B and Jay Z though but I was talking from a musical perspective.

You don't have to like her songs, that's all subjective. But saying she has an average voice is nonsense

 

[Unknown Poster]

Adele is their R&B/Pop white hope but that goes without saying.

It's easy to see why Adele is popular.
Most American white women are insecure and out of shape and Adele speaks to them like a spitting image of what they see in the mirror.
Beyonce couldn't do that, infact that's why they hate her. Cause she reminds them of how mediocre they are.

 

[Unknown Poster]

One thing i have notice is that the difference of support that past black women singers had as compared to now when it comes to the black community. What cause the shift?

It's like unless you're a rapper or in R&B, if you're a black artist, you're just not getting the support of black folks like that.

I think the internet and the way cacs monopolized and monetized everything is the main culprit.

Black people have become a non-factor in the music industry because of it. Why should white people go to black people for black culture/music/art when they can have a cheaper white version they can relate to that has more of a presence due to media saturation and technology? This the culture vulture era of time.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Honestly, rap.

R&B tried too hard to compete with rap for radio and tv space. It was kind of a back and forth competition. R and b singers started getting raunchier and less lovey dovey and rappets started having singers sing the hook. Eventually singers started singing over rap beats.

That's just my lazy recap of it

I feel like rap has just been a dark cloud over most black music to the point black artists can't exist in a space outside of it. They can, but it will always be the deadweight holding back black artists even if they aren't involved with rap at all.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Do you guys think the decline of black women superstars correlate with the anti black women settlement which is present on this era?

There's more of an anti-black sentiment coming up this decade. It's not limited to just black women...but black men too.

I started this thread cause I wanted to get an honest and open dialogue going...
serious question: when and where did house music stop being cool amongst black Americans?
And I came to the conclusion that black people never stopped supporting black music.
It's whites that want o rewrite history and repackage black artforms for white consumption.

I work above a techno/house nightclub here in New York City...me and my friends who are producers and DJs talk about this all the time.
And you see it too with this Vice/Complex social media atmosphere.

People love black art & black music...they just don't feel the same about black people.
They wanna seperate us from the art, culture, and the music so they can enjoy it more amongst themselves.

Like there already is an argument from people that think that house and techno is Europ and not coming from the African American communities in cities like NYC, Philly, Chicago, and Detroit.

Instead of calling it house/techo...call it EDM/Bass house/Future bass have a bunch of Justin Bieber lookalikes wearing supreme as DJs/Producers and frail white girls behind the decks and VOILA...new genre devoid of black influence!

 

[Aba_juggin]

One thing i have notice is that the difference of support that past black women singers had as compared to now when it comes to the black community. What cause the shift?

Answer is deeper than you think

 

[fishfry600]

During Beyonce initial run you still had Alicia keys,Ashanti, ciara, india arie etc

Heather Headley was going gold

Jazmine Sullivan was going gold and grammy nom\

Alicia keys was moving platinum

Corinne Bailey Rae was going platinum

Ashanti platinum

keyshia cole platinum


All during Beyonce time which is i think this goes beyond her.

 

[fishfry600]

And besides r&b and pop black women were represented in other forms of music and example

and to add

 

[Ol’Otis]

Beyonce happened

She blackballed all them broads

 

[Cynic]

Hip Hop lapped R&B ...and well Beyonce/Riri are holding that slot fiercely

A black female would have to get fans from the rappers
and the male singers while being okay with Beyonce
snatching her songs and producers or get blackballed

Happened with Amerie, Keri Hilson and countless others

 

[Mars Blackmon]

There's more of an anti-black sentiment coming up this decade. It's not limited to just black women...but black men too.

I started this thread cause I wanted to get an honest and open dialogue going...
serious question: when and where did house music stop being cool amongst black Americans?
And I came to the conclusion that black people never stopped supporting black music.
It's whites that want o rewrite history and repackage black artforms for white consumption.

I work above a techno/house nightclub here in New York City...me and my friends who are producers and DJs talk about this all the time.
And you see it too with this Vice/Complex social media atmosphere.

People love black art & black music...they just don't feel the same about black people.
They wanna seperate us from the art, culture, and the music so they can enjoy it more amongst themselves.

Like there already is an argument from people that think that house and techno is Europ and not coming from the African American communities in cities like NYC, Philly, Chicago, and Detroit.

Instead of calling it house/techo...call it EDM/Bass house/Future bass have a bunch of Justin Bieber lookalikes wearing supreme as DJs/Producers and frail white girls behind the decks and VOILA...new genre devoid of black influence!

Spot on about house music. That shyt was blatantly jacked from us by Euro cacs and a lot of people don't know anything about it. The whole house (or world music or whatever that they call it now) sound has it's origin in Chicago but it's been quietly and subtly whitewashed. Black folks are going to take an L in the history books when it comes to the origin of that genre.

 

[Will Ross]

Heather Headley was going gold

Jazmine Sullivan was going gold and grammy nom\

Alicia keys was moving platinum

Corinne Bailey Rae was going platinum

Ashanti platinum

keyshia cole platinum


All during Beyonce time which is i think this goes beyond her.

Most of these song came out before Beyonce really really blow up and become an icon.

 

[Tom Foolery]

I was watching old youtube videos of 80s singers and i notice that black women were well represented. Growing up in the 90s and early 2000s i remember he had a wide wange of black female singers, but it appears that we're stuck with two beyonce and rihanna. What i find odd is some biggest selling artist are black women, but yet here we are in this modern era with only two.

I'm working on a thread to address and unmask this issue, but I don't know if it's ready.

I believe my ideas and thoughts are correct, but it's not completely thought out yet.