West: Obama a Rockefeller Repub in blackface; Sharpton, MED, Harris Perry sold souls

[Billy Ocean]

These two still salty because they didn't get invites to Obama's inauguration?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

These two still salty because they didn't get invites to Obama's inauguration?

This is probably true, but that doesn't negate the veracity of their criticisms. Both can be true. But Obama should send Reggie Love to put them paws on West for that blackface shyt though.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

he can't cater specifically to blacks.

Says who? You? You sound like a good slave. Its ok to cater to whites, hispanics, gays, and jews but blacks are off limits? Since when? Only since 2004 has dumb racist sh!t like this been parroted by cacs afraid on losing influnce and braindead negros who "know their place".

 

[Non Sequitur]

I guess a lot of people expected Obama to get on his Robin Hood shyt, and now they're pissed that he's so moderate.

 

[Billy Ocean]

This is probably true, but that doesn't negate the veracity of their criticisms. Both can be true. But Obama should send Reggie Love to put them paws on West for that blackface shyt though.

Yea. I'm not saying whether I believe their criticisms have merit or not but ever since they weren't invited to Obama's inauguration they really seem to be acting like scorned bytches

 

[Pazzy]

am i the only one that wants to tell cornell west to shut the fukk up because he's asking obama to basically do the impossible? do you think the president of the united states can actually change people or for that matter the system that has took centuries to make. HE CAN'T. if cornell was the intellectual that he's supposed to be, he would realize that everytime he comes up with this "obama is supposed to help the black community. obama is kissing these people's ass. obama is not helping out the poor and middle class", there's several reasons behind that shyt. the president CAN'T control everything. he's actually a puppet that has a certain amount of power which is very limited due to the fact that there's so much politics and people that are controlling things such as businesses. the fukk does he want out of obama? there's nothing much he can do. apparently, he doesn't understand the powers of the president, what the president does, and the system otherwise he would realize that obama can't do shyt.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I can agree with some points, but this Obama in blackface stuff is just over sensationalizing his point. No Obama isn't the "black people's president" but no American president will ever be THE president for only 14% of it's citizens, it's just not realistic. What we need is people like Mr. West, Al Sharpton, etc to get together and come up with some solutions we can enact ourselves instead of sitting back pointing fingers at people.

Yes the political system in America is fukked, the wealth gap, poverty, etc are huge problems. But you can't blame Obama for problems/culture that has been in the making for 100 years, nor can you expect him to fix the problems single-handedly

I agree. I think the point he's making though is that push needs to come not from politicians but from "people". I don't know that i'd call Sharpton et all "people" as they are political as any politician. I do think the whole blackface thing is just sensationalism.

He's right though, who holds anyone's feet to the fire anymore?

The closest thing we have to accountability of our politicians is the Norquist tax pledge and look at the results of that. IMHO these politicians are missing that accountability that they once had from people MLK. Were is that at anymore?

 

[Brown_Pride]

am i the only one that wants to tell cornell west to shut the fukk up because he's asking obama to basically do the impossible? do you think the president of the united states can actually change people or for that matter the system that has took centuries to make. HE CAN'T. if cornell was the intellectual that he's supposed to be, he would realize that everytime he comes up with this "obama is supposed to help the black community. obama is kissing these people's ass. obama is not helping out the poor and middle class", there's several reasons behind that shyt. the president CAN'T control everything. he's actually a puppet that has a certain amount of power which is very limited due to the fact that there's so much politics and people that are controlling things such as businesses. the fukk does he want out of obama? there's nothing much he can do. apparently, he doesn't understand the powers of the president, what the president does, and the system otherwise he would realize that obama can't do shyt.

who can change it?

 

[OG Talk]

We don't want much... Just the same amount of attention and respect as the rest of his base...I don't think it's such an unreasonable request especially after giving him Ohio..He has personally looked out for all of his strongest supporters..

Females-He gave them Lilly Ledbetter

Latinos-He gave them the Dream Act

Gays-Ends Don't Ask Don't Tell/Publically supports same sex marriage


Blacks-?


Of course the liberal elite and his blind supporters will say that he can't focus on one group of Americans over the other...But that's what he's consistently done since he came into office...


And don't say Obama Care was his bone to the Black community... Naw n!gga.. We ain't fallin for that...Pay what you owe..Being friends with rappers and basketball players isn't enough...

 

[Brown_Pride]

We don't want much... Just the same amount of attention and respect as the rest of his base...I don't think it's such an unreasonable request especially after giving him Ohio..He has personally looked out for all of his strongest supporters..

Females-He gave them Lilly Ledbetter

Latinos-He gave them the Dream Act

Gays-Ends Don't Ask Don't Tell/Publically supports same sex marriage


Blacks-?


Of course the liberal elite and his blind supporters will say that he can't focus on one group of Americans over the other...But that's what he's consistently done since he came into office...


And don't say Obama Care was his bone to the Black community... Naw n!gga.. We ain't fallin for that...Pay what you owe..Being friends with rappers and basketball players isn't enough...

not agreeing or disagreeing...but what could he give blacks that is solely a "black" issue?

Latinos had immigrations
LBG had marriage rights

What do blacks have that's not encompassed in another group?

 

[IVS]

I could care less about either one of them. Cornell West is shouting from his perch in the Ivory Tower, and going on poverty tours but doing little to address poverty within the "African-American" community. And Obama is a hustler, who hasn't done much of anything for our people. Sure, he was a community organizer in Chicago, but have you seen Chicago lately aka ChIraq (Fred Hampton was a much more effective community organizer IMO.)

There is no real leadership in the African-American community. Anybody who was bout that life got killed in the 60's and 70's and replaced with drones and puppets.

 

[Pazzy]

who can change it?

it didn't take one person to build america, did it?

 

[Brown_Pride]

it didn't take one person to build america, did it?

It took a lot over the course of years. It always starts with one though. Some time way back when some colonialist got really pissed his tea was to high, got with some friends...the rest as they say is history. (yes it's waaayyy over simplified)


but then you look at people like MLK, Rosa Parks, X, Tubman, etc, etc and while they represent more than themselves let we could say they were "figure heads", people who took the angst of the people and provided voice, guidance and exposure. We don't have that anymore.

 

[OG Talk]

not agreeing or disagreeing...but what could he give blacks that is solely a "black" issue?

Latinos had immigrations
LBG had marriage rights

What do blacks have that's not encompassed in another group?

Good question....

To me the biggest issue would be using his power with Eric Holder and his potential Supreme Court additions to fix the criminal justic system to stop institutionazing all of these non violent drug offenders....Finally put an end to this "war on drugs"...Stop taking away all of our brothers, fathers and sons and using them for free labor...Who would have thought that under the first Black president things would get worse?

The war on drugs isn't a "Black issue" but it's something that Black are overwhelmingly affected by negatively...

Drug arrests during Obama's first year in office were higher than they were in George Bush's first year. There have been about 100 marijuana raids under the Obama administration so far, while during all eight of the Bush years, there were only about 200.If there is any through line from Obama's speech at Chicago's Grant Park to this, I'm having trouble gleaning it. The Obama folks are so grievously behind the curve on the war on drugs that their approach will look as tacky and antique in the history books as Herbert Hoover's support for Prohibition as "an experiment noble in purpose."

Sixty-seven percent of our nation's police chiefs consider the war on drugs a failure. The Global Commission on Drug Policy declared the same thing, and we assume that folks like Kofi Annan, George Schultz and Paul Volcker must be on to something.

In response to them, the Obama folks trotted out statistics showing that drug use has declined some since the 1970s. How nice — but at what cost? Surely Obama, Kerlikowske and Attorney General Eric Holder don't think that the massive uptick in incarceration, the hideous disproportion of black men subjected to it and the destruction of black communities in the wake of that incarceration rate have been a mere matter of the eggs one must crack to make an omelet.Truly — they simply cannot think this, and do not. Yet Holder, when asked recently whether he thought ending the war on drugs would cut down on the deaths of police officers, mumbled, "I don't think that's right ... " and walked away (watch that one here). This willful lack of attention to such an urgent problem is one of the few ways in which the Obama administration seems callous at this point.

Not to mention, just plain fake: The Hoo-bama analogy goes further. Hoover privately liked a postwork drink and had previously cultivated a wine cellar; meanwhile, LEAP's report properly notes, "The Obama administration, like at least the two that preceded it, is led by people who used illicit drugs and went on to have productive lives. It is a source of great shame that none of these presidents took real steps to end a policy, which, if fairly administered, would likely have prevented them from entering politics in the first place."

 

[theworldismine13]

Outsource? Modern progressivism is a direct derivative of the Civil Rights movement. In fact, every major Black advancement made in this country since segregation has been made under the auspices of progressivism.

If you want to take the Black agenda in a new direction and divorce it from progressivism, that's fine, of course, and you have a right to that opinion, but it's serious historical revisionism to suggest that the historically, the Black agenda and progressivism can be discussed as truly separate entities. The history of Black social/political achievements is a leftist history, because most Black leaders were leftist and part of leftist movements, so painting leftism as something exterior to Black history and the historical Black agenda is simply inaccurate.

lol @ this

dont put words in my mouth, i said what i said, a lot of black people are and have outsourced the black agenda to leftist ideologies which is a mistake IMO, and yeah i am exercising my right to separate they two, if you want to outsource the black agenda to the "progressive" agenda that's your right also

lets say that this highly dubious statement that "very major Black advancement made in this country since segregation has been made under the auspices of progressivism." is correct, does that mean i as a black person owe some thing to progressives besides a handshake and a pat on the back? does that mean i have to judge black leaders based on the criteria of how progressive they are, so in essence blackness and leftist leanings are equivalent criteria? really?