"Weights make you big calisthenics make you strong "- kali muscle

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Pull ups don’t require you to be lean. I don’t know where you got that from.

Your body responds to the stimulus you put it under. For example, if you lift heavy weights, your body has no choice but to build muscle in response to that stimulus. Well calisthenics works the same way. Because most calisthenics movements (i.e. pullups and dips) require you to move your body through the air in opposition to gravity, the body responds to this stimulus not only by building muscle but also by cutting fat because extra body fat is more weight the body has to lift through the air. The same sort of stimulus doesn't exist in weight lifting since those exercises don't involve lifting the body through the air in opposition to gravity.
 

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Your body responds to the stimulus you put it under. For example, if you lift heavy weights, your body has no choice but to build muscle in response to that stimulus. Well calisthenics works the same way. Because most calisthenics movements (i.e. pullups and dips) require you to move your body through the air in opposition to gravity, the body responds to this stimulus not only by building muscle but also by cutting fat because extra body fat is more weight the body has to lift through the air. The same sort of stimulus doesn't exist in weight lifting since those exercises don't involve lifting the body through the air in opposition to gravity.
Nah calisthenics only do so much after a while you need a mixture of both weights and calisthenics. Calisthenics only is good but you missing out on good gains if you ain’t fukkin with the weights as well.
 
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Nah calisthenics only do so much after a while you need a mixture of both weights and calisthenics. Calisthenics only is good but you missing out on good gains if you ain’t fukkin with the weights as well.

I do weighted calisthenics now for that reason. Once body weight pullups and dips got to be easy I started adding weight. I'll still take calisthenics movements like pullups and dips with weights over traditional weight lifting like lat pull downs.
 

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I do weighted calisthenics now for that reason. Once body weight pullups and dips got to be easy I started adding weight. I'll still take calisthenics movements like pullups and dips with weights over traditional weight lifting like lat pull downs.
I agree but things like dumbbell shoulder press,bench press,etc calisthenics can’t really duplicate those movements,but if I had to I would as well pick calisthenics over weights. But if I had to give any one advice I’d say mix both together at least 3-4 times a week eat clean and get some cardio in and you’ll be good
 

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I see calisthenics crew in here bullshytting but never come through with actual receipts. :martin:


And what's worse they got dumb nikkas believing their :duck:. Calisthenics burn more fat than weights cause my body magically knows I'm moving it differently in space? :mindblown:

Or do muscles really only understand resistance/tension (combined with the fact that these muhfukkas eat like birds and be doing a shyt-ton of reps thus burning more calories. :ohhh:)


Brb nikkas can't chin or pull-up heavy weights.
Brb nikkas can do 1000 push ups a day but can't bench 2 plates.
Brb nikkas not even in the 1000 pound club, let alone 12 or 14 hundo.
Brb these the nikkas that be starring in these gym fail videos.
:mjlol:


Let weak nikkas like @Swagnificent that weigh as much as the average American female lead you non-lifting brehs down the path of frailty, femininity, and futility.
:blessed:


The fewer swole nikkas running around, the more impressive #WeightGang's gains seem to these hoes.
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I see calisthenics crew in here bullshytting but never come through with actual receipts. :martin:


And what's worse they got dumb nikkas believing their :duck:. Calisthenics burn more fat than weights cause my body magically knows I'm moving it differently in space? :mindblown:

Or do muscles really only understand resistance/tension (combined with the fact that these muhfukkas eat like birds and be doing a shyt-ton of reps thus burning more calories. :ohhh:)


Brb nikkas can't chin or pull-up heavy weights.
Brb nikkas can do 1000 push ups a day but can't bench 2 plates.
Brb nikkas not even in the 1000 pound club, let alone 12 or 14 hundo.
Brb these the nikkas that be starring in these gym fail videos.
:mjlol:


Let weak nikkas like @Swagnificent that weigh as much as the average American female lead you non-lifting brehs down the path of frailty, femininity, and futility.
:blessed:


The fewer swole nikkas running around, the more impressive #WeightGang's gains seem to these hoes.
:banderas:


I think it’s been proven over the years Calisthenics is superior in some aspects to weightlifting. Is this of this question why is it there’s so many boxes martial artist and Gymnast don’t work out With heavyweights?
 

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Each approach has its pros and cons.

Bodyweight exercises are far better in terms of recruiting the entire physical chain
which has massive benefits for the mind body connectivity/proprioception plus you become acutely aware of any impingements/weaknesses in the tendons/connective tissue/secondary muscles as these will tire way before your mains do. Only as strong as your weakest link.

Freeweights on the other hand allow for isolation which facilitates higher weights = more hypertrophy.
Down sides are the weaknesses are masked thus ignored (which is why people who can bench more than their bodyweight with perfect form often can't do 20 proper push ups) and the extra stress it puts on your joints due to the nature of the lifts.

Ultimately it all depends on your goal, genetics and various other aspects as there isn't a one size fits all approach to this so get in where you fit in as any kind of training is better than none so hop to.
 

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I think it’s been proven over the years Calisthenics is superior in some aspects to weightlifting. Is this of this question why is it there’s so many boxes martial artist and Gymnast don’t work out With heavyweights?

Maybe because they compete in weight classes (boxing) when excess muscle is detrimental (going to gas faster, have to fight in a weight class that's higher than ideal); or because gymnasts only need enough muscle to provide the strength they need to compete on their given apparatus (extra muscle is detrimental if it affects your speed, power to weight ratio, balance, etc).
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I think it’s been proven over the years Calisthenics is superior in some aspects to weightlifting. Is this of this question why is it there’s so many boxes martial artist and Gymnast don’t work out With heavyweights?

So if a fighter needed to bulk up, do you feel a mix of weights/calisthenics would be an overall better idea than just either/or?
 

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So if a fighter needed to bulk up, do you feel a mix of weights/calisthenics would be an overall better idea than just either/or?

Heavy compounds & properly selected isos + caloric surplus is unparalleled for pure mass IMO.

However, if the fighter wants to maintain spatial awareness, muscular endurance, and body control/neuromuscular coordination a combination of both is prolly ideal.

Don't be like Trunks bulking up to fight Perfect Cell only to realize he was too slow to hit him.
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So if a fighter needed to bulk up, do you feel a mix of weights/calisthenics would be an overall better idea than just either/or?

You’re almost never see a boxer train with heavy weights. Especially on exercises like bench press because it could damage the shoulders and cause mobility issues.
 

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Maybe because they compete in weight classes (boxing) when excess muscle is detrimental (going to gas faster, have to fight in a weight class that's higher than ideal); or because gymnasts only need enough muscle to provide the strength they need to compete on their given apparatus (extra muscle is detrimental if it affects your speed, power to weight ratio, balance, etc).
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OK now look at how muscular and well proportioned most gymnast are. Are you telling me you don’t believe the muscular proportion and even strength cannot be developed by calisthenics?
 
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