We smoking on that XBOX pack tonight. It's Ovah. RIP XBOX.

[Red Money]

You mean the One X? Confused

I'm talking November 2013 consoles. Xbox one should have been more powerful than ps4....Microsoft dropped the ball. Microsoft lost the easy to develop advantage of the 360....so the new advantage for xbox one should have been power out the gate in 2013.

 

[Jaguar93]

by making the xbox one more powerful from the jump. Scrapping the chips once they caught wind of Sony. PS4 and Xbox one both had weak jaguar cores for the time period anyways. Better cpu, faster and/or more ram, and NVME as Microsoft knew it was coming (Wintel relationship was still intact).


Microsoft needed to play the power game since ps4 was the same system as the xbox one (xbox lost their easy to develop advantage) with a few performance tweaks.

Power doesn’t win generations

 

[Rekkapryde]

Power doesn’t win generations

Games do
The end

 

[Red Money]

Power doesn’t win generations

Sega Saturn didn't have enough 3d horse power....consumers crushed it and Sony capitalized with the ps1.

If the Saturn had more 3d power closer to their arcade cabinets....Sony doesn't run away with the generation.

 

[ColdSlither]

Seemingly everyday there’s a new cac tweet rumor that sends the gaming world into a frenzy. 99% of the time it’s false or way overblown.

We are already getting some walk back. cac tweets are now claiming hifi was “canceled” for switch.

This is how it always goes. They throw out a bunch of “maybe” and “thinking about”s then people react to it like it’s factual news then when the shyt don’t happen then say. “well plans changed but the rumors were real”

No company is gonna respond to every twitter rumor.

I 100% guarantee the reaction to the rumors is very much disproportionate to what the announcement actually is.

They are gonna come out and say “some games might come to other platforms to grow our audience, but we remain committed to box hardware, this is the hardware we’ve been working on”

And all the people jumping out the window on both sides are gonna be left looking stupid and jewelzing to justify their immature behavior. Video game industry online discourse is absolute clown shyt.

The same people yall are clowning in here are making the rumors. On one hand they are clown fsggots with terrible opinions and behavior. On the other hand yall treat them as credible news sources when they say something you can stan

Clown shyt all around.

Yeah you’re right. You should know because you’ve been all about clown shyt.

 

[Red Money]

Games do
The end

Sega Saturn was underpowered in the 3D department....they misread the market. Consumers wanted good 3D and Sony crushed the building.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Sega Saturn was underpowered in the 3D department....they misread the market. Consumers wanted good 3D and Sony crushed the building.

Another example of incompetent leadership

 

[Jaguar93]

Games do
The end

Facts regardless of how many teraflops Microsoft puts in their consoles. If the games aren’t there then the system is just blowing air.

 

[Red Money]

Another example of incompetent leadership

true. Sega put out the saturn on a whim and put out 32x like a year before.

Facts regardless of how many teraflops Microsoft puts in their consoles. If the games aren’t there then the system is just blowing air.

But if the sega saturn could have matched the 3D power and polygons per second of the PlayStation....that generation plays out much different. PS1 did 3D much better than Saturn.


And Even if saturn still wasn't super easy for game development Sega had the established base and trust advantage if they made a more powerful console for 3D.

 

[Red Money]

Games do
The end

Sega had the advantage over Sony with games. The games didn't matter when it didn't meet standards for visuals and performance ....and then you can't get developers because of programming difficulty and lack of 3D power.

The console mattered in the PS1 vs Saturn battle.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

I'm not a M$ stan, but a $1200 console will be your reality with the PS6. Enjoy the senseless price gouging.

We need competition in gaming. Anyone saying no, basically doesn't respect their wallets.

Then tell your beloved Nintendo to step it the fukk up when it comes to at least being semi-current generation specs side, if you feel so feverish on that angle. Which is once again, fukking unfounded and stupid that you keep ranting about Sony all of a sudden going to do a 2.5xs price increase out of nowhere, whether they have competition or not. There is still a price limit on consoles and it's not just going to balloon several times out of control in a matter of a 4-5 years. Maybe in 2050 console gaming could get that expensive, if inflation gets to that degree. That's still a big if at that.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Sega had the advantage over Sony with games. The games didn't matter when it didn't meet standards for visuals and performance ....and then you can't get developers because of programming difficulty and lack of 3D power.

The console mattered in the PS1 vs Saturn battle.

Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 7
EA Games

I dunno about that

 

[ColdSlither]

I’m loving the pivot I’m seeing around, that we need Xbox as competition and check and balance on PlayStation

 

[Red Money]

Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 7
EA Games

I dunno about that

i'm talking 1994/95 IPs. Sony didn't have the Sega catalog first party wise, arcade wise, nor indy support wise. and ummm EA put out games on the genesis. Sony asked developers to give them a shot with the higher polygons per second and triangle polygons instead of Sega quads. It was about about power for creating good 3D games and ease of development which was about the Console as opposed to the games.

MGS was 98. FF7 was 97 into 98.....

 

[Jaguar93]

Sega had the advantage over Sony with games. The games didn't matter when it didn't meet standards for visuals and performance ....and then you can't get developers because of programming difficulty and lack of 3D power.

The console mattered in the PS1 vs Saturn battle.

The price, poor leadership, and not having a killer app fukked over the Saturn.