We owe Spike Lee a huge Apology

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This is where somebody comes in to say "So you mean we c00ns if we don't like Spike Lee" :shaq2:
And to that I say not everybody who fits the description is a c00n. In some cases, your just dealing with a dumbass :manny:

O thats def the truth...and I didn't even call anybody a c00n.......but if the shoes fit...you better wear them bytches.......
 

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This is what I wrote on the subject in another thread


Read his comments again. He said that the BASIC PREMISE of the movie (a Spaghetti Western/Slavery era mash up with comedic overtones) wasn't something that HE himself was going to support on the grounds that in his opinion Slavery wasn't something to be parodied. He wasn't ignorantly calling the movie something it wasn't, he wasn't even TRULY shytting on the film itself. For those who are familiar with Spike Lee shytting on a film and director, look up his quotes on Clint Eastwood's Flags Of Our Fathers. He stated that HE wasn't going to see the movie because HE believed that slavery should not be depicted in such a manner.

Nowhere on his comments did he speak ill of Quentin Tarantino
Nowhere in his comments did he speak ill of the cast
Nowhere in his comments did he call for protests or boycotts of the film


Again, Django was a good movie, an entertaining and at times poignant work of FICTION. however, if Spike Lee, for his own personal reasons chooses not to see it or endorse it, then he is WELL within his rights to do so. Spike Lee has done MORE than enough throughout his career with his platform for the advancement of African Americans. His allegiance towards the betterment of African Americans is unquestionable and undebateable. I think people really do forget how many African American actors got their breaks from Spike Lee. I think people forget how Spike Lee battled with the studios when they tried to fukk him on the budget of Malcolm X (both he and Denzel Washingtok put their entire salaries up towards the producron budget) I think people forget how Spike Lee told all major magazines and media outlets that he wanted to be interviewed by black journalists, at a time when most of these magazines HAD no black journalists and had go hire them. I think people forget that Spike Lee was calling bullshyt on being charged with Anti-Semticism and creating dialogue on Jewish control of Black Films. I think that people REALLY FORGET what Spike Lee's films stand for in regards to accurately depicting the TRUE African American experience (not Tarantino's Revenge Fanatsy) in modern culture, and I think some of you need to be educated before you disparage Spike Lee.

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May have to post this Piff Post on my facebook page
 

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I'm not defending or attacking anyone. But if spike cared about black people so much, he wouldn't shyt on one of the only big budget blockbusters to cast black folks as major characters, especially without even seeing the movie. There are black careers and families tied to the success of this movie, by discrediting this movie he is hurting them not QT.
He never went after the actors nor did he say people shouldn't go see this flick. He said he wouldn't be watching it because he doesn't agree with the story.
Your right other races don't fukk with us like that. So why is it when we get a moment where other races MIGHT fukk with us(none of us are in QT's head to know how he really feels) we tear it down. If there was a director out there that wanted to make a good movie for us, he won't do it cause we will just complain about it and call him a racist white overlord.

Django unchained is a much more real depiction of slavery than a lot of kids are taught in school. Reading my daughters history books you would think slavery was all peaches and happiness. Not to say that the movie should be used as a true representation of slavery, but if you wanna complain about the depiction of slavery there are plenty more inaccurate, damaging depictions to address than django.
So freed slaves were going around killing white people with no retribution?

..u cant have an opinion on a movie u never saw...
So you never saw a trailer or heard what a movie was about and decided you weren't going to watch it? Cause that's what Spike did.
 

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yes, spike has a right to his opinion.

yes, spike has done enough for black art that he should have been given the benefit of the doubt by cats like luke and dikk gregory instead of outright being insulted

no, there is nothing inauthentic about depicting low-lifed white people as users of the n-word. i assure you they are using it right now in real life.

no, QT doesnt need to prove he "loves us" in order to be allowed to make movies that feature the n-word, nor should spike have to prove his love for koreans before he remakes oldboy. that is arbitrary and kinda silly.
 

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He never went after the actors nor did he say people shouldn't go see this flick. He said he wouldn't be watching it because he doesn't agree with the story.
Spike lee saying he's not going to see a movie, is a powerful statement. He knew exactly what he was doing by making the statement. Being that he has friends and colleagues in the movie AND he's a director AND he knows how hard it is for black actors to find work. He should have at least gone to see the movie before trashing it, or he should have not said anything at all.
So freed slaves were going around killing white people with no retribution?
Actually yes, and there were black cowboys, and there are stories of freed men going back to rescue their wives, but that's not the point I was getting at. Obviously the plot of the movie is fictional, I was talking about the depiction of the brutality of slavery in the movie.

So you never saw a trailer or heard what a movie was about and decided you weren't going to watch it? Cause that's what Spike did.
Yes but I'm not a famous and influential director. Just the fact that he is a director suggests that he should go see a movie before trashing it, that's his profession. If he just decided he wasn't going to see it, he wouldn't be putting out public statements about it. I'm sure plenty of other people decided not to go see it, but they didn't feel the need to make a public statement about it.
 

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Spike making the declaration that he is against a movie based on the time it is set in/subject matter is a dikk move and similar to how the Italians and the families of Son of Sam victims were all downing Summer of Sam before ever even seeing the movie.
If he had actually seen Django and then made his statements it would not have been as big a deal but shytting on another director's work sight unseen is not a good look. And the fact that Spike has a documented history of being a crab about other people's art without having actually sampled it just leaves his comments open for justifiable criticism.
 

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And here is more of the bullshyt. Now you from Compton doggy? :rudy:
that :ohhh:

Lol so now it's against the rules for someone posting on the Coli to be from Compton. :russ: this is worse than pathetic. Long beach blvd and rosecrans chump....no you can't have my street address, I don't roll that way...but I'm sure you and ya boy freshabm do:scusthov:
 

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So I read half of it...sorry it's Friday and I'm trying to get out work early. :skip:

But, I share the same sentiment in that I'm not entertaining anything with making slavery as the backdrop to tell a make-up or factual story about that terrible time period in America. :yeshrug:
 

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Lol so now it's against the rules for someone posting on the Coli to be from Compton. :russ: this is worse than pathetic. Long beach blvd and rosecrans chump....no you can't have my street address, I don't roll that way...but I'm sure you and ya boy freshabm do:scusthov:

You dont roll that way but you telling son your blocks :huhldup:.... pause
 

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no, QT doesnt need to prove he "loves us" in order to be allowed to make movies that feature the n-word, nor should spike have to prove his love for koreans before he remakes oldboy. that is arbitrary and kinda silly.
You are responding to a strawman here. Nobody has tried to take away any of QT's rights. This isn't an issue of what QT is or isn't allowed to do. You're misrepresenting what the point was. When whoever wrote that piece says that QT doesn't "love us" he's saying that he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt(to put it mildly) that the blacks who have chose to cape for his movie are giving him.
 

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another lil piece of history Cacs and fakkits

the WHITEMAN that directed the Mack( the movie rappers and other blacks praise also)

went to Oakland to film it and actually interviewd and got help from the main pimp in the city

well real nikkas know that that was the Black Panthers city and they ran it back then
whever they would be filming The Mack black panthers used to terrorize the set throwin shyt, breakin glass shyt like dat.

after filimng they actually killed the pimp that the movie The Mack was supposed to be about

also The Mack and other blaxtpolitatioin movies( SIMILAR TO DTRASHO)
used real pimps,hoes,drug dealers, in them movies

imo DTRASHO is in the same vein as them type of movies Blaxploitation but now with a HIPSTER WHITEBOY TWIST
 

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Why can't we respect Spike Lee & his craft and like Django as well?

I don't see a problem with doing this. :manny:

Because most of these geeks are so fukking extreme....

It is either fukk Spike, Django is the GOAT movie... Or the other way around....

It can never just be...

"Hmm, I respect Spike's opinion to not see the movie, I would like to see the movie to be entertained though :ehh:"

Or "I agree with spike, and I will not see this movie, but QT is a talented director.."
 

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He never went after the actors nor did he say people shouldn't go see this flick. He said he wouldn't be watching it because he doesn't agree with the story.
So freed slaves were going around killing white people with no retribution?

So you never saw a trailer or heard what a movie was about and decided you weren't going to watch it? Cause that's what Spike did.

no it aint..he said it was disrespectful this n that...and he never even seen the movie to judge for himself...that's some rookie shyt a regular viewer could do..but a fukkin seasoned filmed vet like spike should fukkin know better...there's plenty of movies I wrote off cause I thought it was about one thing from the trailer and then I end up seein the movie randomly and it shocked the fukk outta me cause it wasn't what I thought it was...and what makes it so bad is he's been doin this type of bullshyt for YEARS...and this is prolly one of the reason's he can't get people to work wit him anymore...
 
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