We Need a Second Great Migration: Black Folks Need to Head Back Downsouth (NYT)

[BrothaZay]

Negged

Idgaf. Ppl in the south be lying to themselves tryna make the south cities seem like the best. Mfcas really was in the other thread comparing Atlanta to Los Angeles. Give me a break

Like I said new Orleans dope culture wise. Houston is diverse. But outside of that nothing in the south comes CLOSE to the big 3( la, nyc, Chicago). Sorry but truth hurts

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

OP, look at the posts in here from most of the people from the south.

They hate us and don't want us in their city. So, what's the point, if we're not gonna live peacefully?

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Others have objected: Isn’t the North just better for Black people than the South?

Many Black people are leery of the South, if not afraid of it. They still have in their minds a retrograde South: dirty and dusty, overgrown and underdeveloped, a third-world region in a first-world country. They see a region that is unenlightened and repressive, overrun by religious zealots and open racists. The caricatures have calcified: hillbillies and banjos, Confederate flags and the Ku Klux Klan.

To be sure, all of that is here. But racism is more evenly distributed across the country than we are willing to admit.
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I can't believe Mr. Blow wrote this.

He should know better as a Lousiana native and Grambling grad.

What Black people? Many? NAH. How are we afraid of somewhere we always lived, visited -- and family is still at?

Who thinks this about the South?

I see what the Mr. Blow was trying to do. But, it comes off wrong and disconnected.

Exactly!! It's like how the coli assumes everyone from NY hates the south.

Every NYer literally brags about visiting the south and constantly talks about wanting to move there.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

breh

it's just online shyt

you can move anywhere and most of these people ain't gonna pay you no mind.

OP, look at the posts in here from most of the people from the south.

They hate us and don't want us in their city. So, what's the point, if we're not gonna live peacefully?

 

[GoAggieGo.]

I’m joking cause i hate white supremacy.

I hate it too, but not enough to wipe out all that my ancestors accomplished. Not to mention they’re buried here.

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

breh

it's just online shyt

you can move anywhere and most of these people ain't gonna pay you no mind.

Yeah I know. Just wanted to be passive aggressive towards some of these dudes lol

 

[Flywin Lannister]

“I am unapologetically pro-Black, not because I believe in Black supremacy, which is as false and reckless a notion as white supremacy, but rather because I insist upon Black equity and equality.”

Just to be clear is the author suggesting white supremacy is a false notion?

I agree that the concept of any 1-sided supremacy is reckless (history proved it) but white supremacy us 1,000,000% not a false notion.

To say so is extremely dangerous and it glosses over a cornerstone of society and inequality.

“Black people need no permission to seek their own liberation.”
True. It does however require more than us finally uniting and working together. It will require collaboration with those in power (white people)

“I say to Black people: Return to the South, cast down your anchor and create an environment in which racial oppression has no place.”

How is the South an environment without racial oppression..?

 

[CrimsonTider]

The South is superior to the North in every category except their draconian marijuana laws.

But if you’re a Black man that values home ownership, keeping more of your paycheck, the right to bear arms, less regulation for starting a small business and warmer weather.. The South is the obvious choice.


Plus they have better looking women and cuisine.

This reads like a Candace Owens endorsed post


And it ignores the huge racial inequity in education, healthcare and Worker rights laws in the south


Not shocking coming from a maga

 

[Sbp]

We don't want yall back.. Yall ancestors ran away when shyt got crucial

 

[Flywin Lannister]

When are black people going to focus on getting money instead of worrying about “hate” all the time from cacs in a cac nation.

Texas, ATL and NC are good southern states cause they have large cities that can give black folks good paying gigs.


Money and wealth should be the only concern of the black community. Once you get that then we can talk about politics.

You used ‘gigs’ and ‘wealth’ in one sentence.

As long as you have a job, there’s a 99% chance you’ll never accumulate wealth

You asked why Black people talk about racist cacs: because they run society and make the rules. It is unfair and impacts us all negatively.

We should focus on creating our own health, you are 100% right. We should also focus on ending the unhealthy situation where we are NOT the ones making most money off our own culture (music, clothing a.o.) and where we don’t control the narrative around and of our culture (media like Complex is a perfect example.)

 

[OG Talk]

This reads like a Candace Owens endorsed post


And it ignores the huge racial inequity in education, healthcare and Worker rights laws in the south


Not shocking coming from a maga

If you don’t value the things that I listed, then move to Boston or Seattle.

What the fukk do I care?

To each their own

 

[CrimsonTider]

If you don’t value the things that I listed, then move to Boston or Seattle.

What the fukk do I care?

To each their own

It’s not about valuing those things it’s you pretending the black QOL is better in the south die conservative talking points which is just a flat out lie

 

[ISO]

“I am unapologetically pro-Black, not because I believe in Black supremacy, which is as false and reckless a notion as white supremacy, but rather because I insist upon Black equity and equality.”

Just to be clear is the author suggesting white supremacy is a false notion?

I agree that the concept of any 1-sided supremacy is reckless (history proved it) but white supremacy us 1,000,000% not a false notion.

To say so is extremely dangerous and it glosses over a cornerstone of society and inequality.

“Black people need no permission to seek their own liberation.”
True. It does however require more than us finally uniting and working together. It will require collaboration with those in power (white people)

“I say to Black people: Return to the South, cast down your anchor and create an environment in which racial oppression has no place.”

How is the South an environment without racial oppression..?

That’s not what he’s saying at all.

 

[OG Talk]

It’s not about valuing those things it’s you pretending the black QOL is better in the south die conservative talking points which is just a flat out lie

WOAT

 

[JerseyBoy23]

The best jobs in my industry are in NYC, Chicago and LA so unless I pivot to something that has good jobs everywhere, the south isn't really an option for me until retirement.

Edit: Also dude went all the way to ATL when he could've moved 10 miles over to Newark or East Orange to live somewhere with black political power. Both cities are represented by a black senator, black house rep and governed by a black deputy governor and black mayors.