We gotta have a discussion on Liberia bruh

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The stratification of Tutsi v Hutu in Rwanda is largely a function of German/Belgian colonial rule and not British.

From your post, am I correct in thinking that what you're trying to do is say that Liberia is a poor example of Af-Ams coming back to Africa because Americo-Liberians basically subjugated the Kru, Gola, Mandingo etc?

Gotta do a bank run / pay bills, will reply later ...though the answer to the bold print is largely at the tale end of the OP in the "conclusion" section. Be back later...

 

[EndDomination]

Anyways this is a VERY good thread that debunks some myths imo. Many people who try to argue against American Blacks going to Africa try to use Liberia as a negative example. And like you said they simplifily the situation.

Before the civil war Liberia was among the most stable African countries!

Colonial stability

 

[Bawon Samedi]

 

[fscballin]

yea something like that....there's a name they call them (can't remember) but it's basically saying they're "fugazi africans" ....which is considering it was former descendants returning back to Africa

They are fugazi tho.

The vast vast vast majority of blacks from America were never from the landmass labeled as Africa by white imperialist to begin with.

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[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Anyways this is a VERY good thread that debunks some myths imo. Many people who try to argue against American Blacks going to Africa try to use Liberia as a negative example. And like you said they simplifily the situation.

Before the civil war Liberia was among the most stable African countries!

During the Samuel Doe Presidency?

 

[Apollo Creed]

 

[Bawon Samedi]

During the Samuel Doe Presidency?

No. Before like during the cold war era.

 

[Paradise50]

They are fugazi tho.

The vast vast vast majority of blacks from America were never from the landmass labeled as Africa by white imperialist to begin with.

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won't argue that

 

[satam55]

Are the Americo-Liberians still around?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Are the Americo-Liberians still around?

No. they fled for the most part during the first civil war or when Doe got into power i forget which one.

I think there are some who might have went back but their numbers were always tiny in the first place.

 

[satam55]

Are the Americo-Liberians still around?

No. they fled for the most part during the first civil war or when Doe got into power i forget which one.

I think there are some who might have went back but their numbers were always tiny in the first place.

Where did they flee to? Did they go back to the U.S.?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Where did they flee to? Did they go back to the U.S.?

Probably the US. I know two of the big families were the Toberts and tubmans and that name has roots in the carolinas. My cousins wife great grandfather was an americo liberian from north Carolina.

Like i said their numbers are small and liberian accents dont sound like typical west african accents so its often hard to spot them out.

 

[satam55]

Probably the US. I know two of the big families were the Toberts and tubmans and that name has roots in the carolinas. My cousins wife great grandfather was an americo liberian from north Carolina.

Like i said their numbers are small and liberian accents dont sound like typical west african accents so its often hard to spot them out.

Is there any YouTube video footage of what an americo-liberian looks & sounds like?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Is there any YouTube video footage of what an americo-liberian looks & sounds like?

Lol liberians look exactly like AAs and other blacks of the diaspora. People dont know Im African until they see my name. There are some tribes that have distinctive features where I could see them and tell they were liberian but for the most people people think me and my fam are just AAs or from the islands.

Id go on a limb and say gullsh geechie people look "more african" than many liberians. My tribe came from the sahel prior to liberia so we look different than say Kru people who had been in Liberia before us. So Liberia in general is a nation where there is great diversity in how people look


Liberians pronouce words certain ways so i could tell this guy was Liberian without him having to speak Liberian english.

 

[Samori Toure]

... Liberia - (I think we all see the pattern now) cacs from the U.S. goes to the Berlin conference says they want Liberia. Cacs then goes to Liberia and gives the local Africans(who are already there and minding there own business) some superficial trinkets for land near the sea. They then tell another group of African people(African Americans) hey you guys don't like it here? Well you can have your very own country and make your very own rules ...just get on the boat.​

African Americans get off the boat and start building(cacs leave)
Local Africans are like, who da fukk yall spose to be?
To which the African Americans can only say "Da white man said I can have my own country here".......(on yall land)
They live separate lives short of trade but there is a catch....the "American Colonial Society" designated a landmass at the Berlin conference... .

Berlin Conference? Wasn't the Berlin Conference in the 1880's?

I ask that because I think that Liberia was founded in the mid 1820's when the American Colonization Society (ACS) got land from tribes in Liberia to relocate freed Black Americans back to Africa. The ACS was formed by influential White Americans to relocate freed Black people back to Africa, because the Southern States in the USA were banning freed Blacks from within their borders due to the freed Blacks assisting runaways slaves and inciting slave rebellions. Initially I think the plan was to send freed Blacks to Sierra Leone, which was another colony founded for/by African Americans that fought with the British in the American Revolution, but the British didn't want anymore Americans in that Colony. So the ACS got land in Liberia after the USA Congress provided the funding.

Liberia declared it's independence in the 1847. From what I recall the USA government never had a colony in Africa and because of the backing of the USA; no European Country ever colonized Liberia. So Ethiopia and Liberia share the distinction of being the only African nations that were never colonized. For obvious reasons there are really close historical ties between the USA and Liberia and they have always been aligned. The USA's assistance to Liberia in development matters is the reason that Liberia granted Firestone and some European nations the right to extract resources from Liberia.

Liberian independence proclaimed - Jul 26, 1847 - HISTORY.com
Liberia–United States relations - Wikipedia

From a historical note England and the USA; especially the USA took many slaves from in and around Sierra Leone and Liberia, which is why White Americans were aware of where many American Slaves were originally from.