Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha
Superstar
such a reach, he has peach skinReal talk, how many of y'all thought that the Lex Luthor from the DCAU/Timmverse was black, growing up?
WB possibly eying Black Actors for Lex Luthor
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Nick Fury was already black in the Ultimate Marvel Universe. Not only that, Ultimate Nick Fury was designed with the look and personality of Samuel L. Jackson back in 2002. They had also used this version of Nick Fury in a couple of the direct to DVD/Blu-ray Marvel Animated Films. That's why nobody has a problem with Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Because they have technically stayed true to the comics.
Like I said earlier in this thread, It's not just the fact that the Lex Luthor looked like a light-skinned brother in the DCAU/Timmverse, his voice actor (Clancy Brown) made him sound like a professional, corporate black man. (Click on the link to compare Lex Luthor voice actors: http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Superman/Lex-Luthor/) If you looks at the end credits, his voice actor also had a black name (Clancy Brown). So, a lot folks would just assume the Lex Luthor was black.
sure if you get a picture of Lex standing in low lighting from a single cartoon show you could say he looks like he might possibly be Black. That is until you look at him in different lighting
and then it gets even more ridiculous when him and Superman are in the same shot and are the same exact color
You know there's more to a black person than skin color, right? No one is even trying to claim he WAS black, just that he looked black and you all are fighting tooth and nail against that.
If he was a two bit criminal nikkas would be up in here like; "fukk all da dum shyt Slim Cutta was black. He was a G. You see how he slapped Lois Lane on the ass.
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I can see why fans of the TAS thought he was black. Look at the toy
lex was black
The Geeks actually like the idea of Denzel playing Lexsource: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=91050
Haven't looked at the comment section yet, but I'm sure the geeks are furious.
Wait till Twitter gets a hold of this story...that is when the racism will really start flying.
Dirty Mcdrawz
Your girl loves em....
But look at his features tho.. FULL black lips and shytYou know there's more to a black person than skin color, right? No one is even trying to claim he WAS black, just that he looked black and you all are fighting tooth and nail against that.
If he was a two bit criminal nikkas would be up in here like; "fukk all da dum shyt Slim Cutta was black. He was a G. You see how he slapped Lois Lane on the ass.
steeped forehead
dominate nose
that nikka black breh lol
Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
Gonna preface this post and say : This is likely bullshyt.
Having said that...it does bring up some interesting discussions.
I would love to see a black person with Luthors typical mannerisms.
A black as the smartest person in the entire DC UNIVERSE....and c00ns wanna cry about "source material"?
This is why we lose....
You'll never see Jews complaining about the Wonder Woman casting...but niccas are more loyal to dorky comic books than their own fukking race.
These types of arguments are extremely short-sighted. Y'all must have an extremely strong aversion to nuance and subtlety to feel this way.
You have to think a little deeper than "Villain = Bad Representation"...this shyt is so deep and twisted and complicated that that simply doesn't cut it.
Andy & Amos are nice. Blindside is nice. Slaves, servants, and "the help" are nice. These characterizations tend to have a *negative* impact on us however.
Blacks can be interesting. I think I'm interesting. I know other interesting black people....but our media representation is commonly just BORING and PREDICTABLE. Good or bad...we are just fukking mannequins in popular media. A people with no personality, culture, wit, charm, intelligence, sex appeal, or anything else that other groups get constantly portrayed as.
I remember after Denzel's turn in Training Day, there were some blacks (That I typically had respect for no less) angry that he "had to play a villain to win an oscar". I'm like, really? Do people not understand a complete, nuanced, intelligent, clever, charismatic individual when they see one? Y'all would rather have a bubbly, comedic, Chris Tucker Rush Hour type of cop over Alonzo?
The main issue with black villain representation in the media isn't that they are always diabolical or that they are always plotting...it's that they are not even villains..their "criminals". There is a difference. If y'all think that casting Lex Luthor as black, is the same as say.....the random niccas in a Law & Order police line-up, I don't know what to tell ya....
Training Day/American Gangster/Nino Brown (this ones close, but I still like it because Wesley brought so much to the character) type of characterizations don't "hurt" us. The same way that Italians aren't heart by movies like Casino or Goodfellas.
Hell if anything..I'd like to see that black ultra-villain/super devious shyt more...I *want* a Black Dr. Doom....I *want* a Black Magneto....I *want* a Black Littlefinger.
Y'all make it seem like...instead of trying to take over the world/maximize his power/grow an empire...that they are gonna have Denzel up in their scheming on how to pimp hoes and slang crack on a street corner. Like they are gonna have Idris planning smash and grabs. C'mon now.
If they wanted to make use of a black villain so bad, then they should have went with black manta or black adam. He's basically black batman with a villain origin story. Changing lex luthor into a black man doesn't sit well with me for a few reasons. One being the hero is still white, there's no way getting around that. If this were black superman vs black luthor, I'd be ok with it. As talented an actor as denzel washington is, he shouldn't have to play the bad guy to get the nod. I love training day and I like the wire, but don't you think it's a little bit odd that so many white fan boys are open to the thought of a black villain but a black or hispanic flash freaks them the fukk out? That shyt is messed up when you think about. I remember when a bunch of white fanboys were upset that topher grace was cast as venom in the spiderman movie awhile back. They swore venom was a nikka. They complained he was too "white" for the role, no kidding. This is what they think of us.
White boys only giving us villain and supporting roles. Hell, Sam Jack's Nick Fury played second fiddle to the all white avengers. Outside of assembling the team, what did he do really? Nikka was Ma'Ti status.
That to me is a sideways the way they view black folks. Someone in the comments section articulated this point well.
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Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
What racism? A black man being a villain is not a threat to them. What's a threat is changing batman into a blackman. White boys ain't worried about no lex luthor.