WB possibly eying Black Actors for Lex Luthor

[duncanthetall]

Yall just throwin out every random nikka now goddamn. They listed David Ramsey in the article and I agree that he'd be fukking perfect in that role. But, I'd rather not. Let him be an original villain or something if you really want him in there. That'd be crazy if they had a Justice League movie or something and they came up with their own villain.

On one hand, fanboys would commit that

On the other, what if the shyt they came up with.....was dope

 

[Spaceman Piff]

but why post a pick of boris when he looks nothing like the animated lex from jl

bc all yall look alike to me

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

so yall saying he aint black

Yeah, how can anyone say this dude doesn't look black?

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

at yall that thought the TAS Lex was black. I bet yall thought TAS Two Face was black, too.

But bringing John Stewart in would be . Reboot and forget about that other Lantern movie. I rather have him than boring ass Cyborg. I feel like DC is just forcing him down our throats with the new 52 reboot just so they can say they have a black character on the Justice League

Cyborg is the worse member on JL, I can't stand him....but I liked him in the teen titans cartoon, he just feels so bland to me in the comics

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Gus Fring / Esposito would be perfect

 

[satam55]

Real talk, how many of y'all thought that the Lex Luthor from the DCAU/Timmverse was black, growing up?

I assumed he was

Bruh, I grew up as a kid in the late 90's thinking that the Lex Luthor on "Superman: the Animated Series" was black. I rewatched "Superman: the Animated Series" & watched Justice League/Justice League Unlimited for the 1st time in late '08/early '09 at 20 years old, still thinking he was black. It wasn't till I watched some other DC comics TV shows/movies that wasn't DCAU/Timmverse ("Smallville", Superman: Doomsday, wack-ass 1978 Superman movie, & "Superman Returns") that I realized that Lex Luthor isn't black & is supposed to be white..

 

[Jello Biafra]

I am calling on that article and not for the Black Lex stuff (even though their reasoning for Idris Elba not getting the part sounds like some shyt a person who has no clue how Hollywood contracts work would say) but rather for the way they are describing the JLA. It sounds like something a bunch of dudes on a message board came up with.

 

[Box Cutta]

Gonna preface this post and say : This is likely bullshyt.

Having said that...it does bring up some interesting discussions.

I would love to see a black person with Luthors typical mannerisms.

A black as the smartest person in the entire DC UNIVERSE....and c00ns wanna cry about "source material"?

This is why we lose....

You'll never see Jews complaining about the Wonder Woman casting...but niccas are more loyal to dorky comic books than their own fukking race.

Nah fukk that, the evil villain gotta be Black now? Gtfoh. I aint down with that shyt. You wanna make someone Black, make Superman Black. That's right, Black Superman. Make that shyt happen.

Lol @ black people fighting for the right to be portrayed as villains now. I'll let the white boys have this "W".

These types of arguments are extremely short-sighted. Y'all must have an extremely strong aversion to nuance and subtlety to feel this way.

You have to think a little deeper than "Villain = Bad Representation"...this shyt is so deep and twisted and complicated that that simply doesn't cut it.

Andy & Amos are nice. Blindside is nice. Slaves, servants, and "the help" are nice. These characterizations tend to have a *negative* impact on us however.

Blacks can be interesting. I think I'm interesting. I know other interesting black people....but our media representation is commonly just BORING and PREDICTABLE. Good or bad...we are just fukking mannequins in popular media. A people with no personality, culture, wit, charm, intelligence, sex appeal, or anything else that other groups get constantly portrayed as.

I remember after Denzel's turn in Training Day, there were some blacks (That I typically had respect for no less) angry that he "had to play a villain to win an oscar". I'm like, really? Do people not understand a complete, nuanced, intelligent, clever, charismatic individual when they see one? Y'all would rather have a bubbly, comedic, Chris Tucker Rush Hour type of cop over Alonzo?

The main issue with black villain representation in the media isn't that they are always diabolical or that they are always plotting...it's that they are not even villains..their "criminals". There is a difference. If y'all think that casting Lex Luthor as black, is the same as say.....the random niccas in a Law & Order police line-up, I don't know what to tell ya....

Training Day/American Gangster/Nino Brown (this ones close, but I still like it because Wesley brought so much to the character) type of characterizations don't "hurt" us. The same way that Italians aren't heart by movies like Casino or Goodfellas.

Hell if anything..I'd like to see that black ultra-villain/super devious shyt more...I *want* a Black Dr. Doom....I *want* a Black Magneto....I *want* a Black Littlefinger.

Y'all make it seem like...instead of trying to take over the world/maximize his power/grow an empire...that they are gonna have Denzel up in their scheming on how to pimp hoes and slang crack on a street corner. Like they are gonna have Idris planning smash and grabs. C'mon now.

 

[dabestkeptsecret]

Talking nighas getting geeked over a black lex luthor, smh if you don't recognize the Obama shame. If they are going that route at least give us a black hero.

He's not just a regular dumb ass villain. He's one of the smartest character in dc comics (and that's saying a lot with batman's prep time in place). He gets the best of superman using nothing but his intelligence. I don't see the problem with a black person getting viewed as such.

 

[satam55]

so yall saying he aint black

Yeah, how can anyone say this dude doesn't look black?

It's not just the fact that the Lex Luthor looked like a light-skinned brother in the DCAU/Timmverse, his voice actor (Clancy Brown) made him sound like a professional, corporate black man. (Click on the link to compare Lex Luthor voice actors: http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Superman/Lex-Luthor/) If you looks at the end credits, his voice actor also had a black name (Clancy Brown). So, a lot folks would just assume the Lex Luthor was black.

 

[up in here]

These types of arguments are extremely short-sighted. Y'all must have an extremely strong aversion to nuance and subtlety to feel this way.

You have to think a little deeper than "Villain = Bad Representation"...this shyt is so deep and twisted and complicated that that simply doesn't cut it.

Andy & Amos are nice. Blindside is nice. Slaves, servants, and "the help" are nice. These characterizations tend to have a *negative* impact on us however.

Blacks can be interesting. I think I'm interesting. I know other interesting black people....but our media representation is commonly just BORING and PREDICTABLE. Good or bad...we are just fukking mannequins in popular media. A people with no personality, culture, wit, charm, intelligence, sex appeal, or anything else that other groups get constantly portrayed as.

I remember after Denzel's turn in Training Day, there were some blacks (That I typically had respect for no less) angry that he "had to play a villain to win an oscar". I'm like, really? Do people not understand a complete, nuanced, intelligent, clever, charismatic individual when they see one? Y'all would rather have a bubbly, comedic, Chris Tucker Rush Hour type of cop over Alonzo?

The main issue with black villain representation in the media isn't that they are always diabolical or that they are always plotting...it's that they are not even villains..their "criminals". There is a difference. If y'all think that casting Lex Luthor as black, is the same as say.....the random niccas in a Law & Order police line-up, I don't know what to tell ya....

Training Day/American Gangster/Nino Brown (this ones close, but I still like it because Wesley brought so much to the character) type of characterizations don't "hurt" us. The same way that Italians aren't heart by movies like Casino or Goodfellas.

Hell if anything..I'd like to see that black ultra-villain/super devious shyt more...I *want* a Black Dr. Doom....I *want* a Black Magneto....I *want* a Black Littlefinger.

Y'all make it seem like...instead of trying to take over the world/maximize his power/grow an empire...that they are gonna have Denzel up in their scheming on how to pimp hoes and slang crack on a street corner. Like they are gonna have Idris planning smash and grabs. C'mon now.

Blindside, slaves, servants and "the help" aren't "nice". They are subordinate and sub-servant, thats why they are problematic.

Black people can be interesting like you said. But a Black hero can be just as complex and interesting as a Black villian. A Black Superman who is conscious of race would be very complex.

The Denzel Training Day issue isn't as simple as you make it out to be. Yes he was a complete, nuanced, intelligent, clever, charismatic individual, but he was also greedy, conniving and corrupt. And no, Chris Tucker is not the only alternative. You know who else was a complete, nuanced, intelligent, clever, charismatic individual, Malcolm X. Also Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. And Denzel got overlooked for both those roles. That was the issue.

Training Day/American Gangster/Nino Brown do hurt us if there is no counter image. And Italians are hurt by mafia movies, alot of Italians dont like being associated with the mafia.

I personally wouldn't mind a Black supervillian if there was a Black superhero facing off against them. I think that would be very interesting to watch. But a Black supervillian and a white superhero doesn't sit well with me.

 

[up in here]

It's not just the fact that the Lex Luthor looked like a light-skinned brother in the DCAU/Timmverse, his voice actor (Clancy Brown) made him sound like a professional, corporate black man. (Click on the link to compare Lex Luthor voice actors: http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Superman/Lex-Luthor/) If you looks at the end credits, his voice actor also had a black name (Clancy Brown). So, a lot folks would just assume the Lex Luthor was black.

so yall saying he aint black

Honestly if they cant get walter white/heizenberg, i def support this move. Especially if they get gus

sure if you get a picture of Lex standing in low lighting from a single cartoon show you could say he looks like he might possibly be Black. That is until you look at him in different lighting

and then it gets even more ridiculous when him and Superman are in the same shot and are the same exact color

 

[HipHopStan]

so yall saying he aint black

The DCAU Luthor was inspired by Telly Savalas' portrayal of the Bond villain, Ernst Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

 

[GulfCoastGhost]

I see no problem with that?
They made Nick Fury black

 

[satam55]

sure if you get a picture of Lex standing in low lighting from a single cartoon show you could say he looks like he might possibly be Black. That is until you look at him in different lighting

and then it gets even more ridiculous when him and Superman are in the same shot and are the same exact color

He still got nikka lips, though.