WB/DC shakeup after Justice League underperforms

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I’m still convinced the tonal shift in Suicide Squad’s development was a direct reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy and how well it was received.
Maybe. But more likely just an over reaction to BVS.


Suicide squad was a fundamentally flawed film from the beginning because of enchantress regardless.

But them changing Harley and jokers relationship was changed in reshoots and post from abusive to what we got. They lightened the film's tone.
 
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I cant fukk with the fact that half the movies the DCEU feel like set up movies, but in always gonna support comic movies so they continue to get put out:yeshrug:. I dont think the approach thet did was horrible, but their execution sure as hell was. Being 5 movies in and the biggest villain names you pulled out are Ares and Zod? I feel like Aquaman's gonna do well because theyre putting so much effort into making him a bad-ass. All I really want id a Red Hood and The Outlaws or Static Shock movie
 

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Yes. In DC Comics, he relaunched/revamped the Justice League in 2011 with Cyborg as a "founding member". Prior to that, Cyborg was predominantly known as a Teen Titan.

I don't recall Shazam in the original comic relaunch, but he was in the animated movie version.. but the animated movies were based off Geoff's relaunched league stories and Shazam/Billy was used as a means to give Cyborg someone to talk to in those films. Cyborg had been all but neglected in Geoffs comic version. Basically watchtower/janitor duty status.

A lot of people (including myself) feel that Johns was looking for a commercial Justice League team (cartoons, games, eventual movies, etc) and wanted to keep Hal Jordan (b/c that's "his guy") but he knew he couldn't have nothing but white people on the team, not when audiences were used to Stewart specifically, so he swapped out Martian Manhunter with Cyborg to fill that diversity quota, in hopes there wouldn't be any heat or backlash for Hal's inclusion. His poor writing and handling of Stewart in the comics is a sour spot for many John Stewart readers (myself included) and that was before 2011.
Been saying this shyt for years
 

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Dude told me the pacing was shyt. BVS was like that, in a way.
Justice League is a stitched together Frankenstein film made up of scenes by two different directors.


BVS pacing issues were because they made Snyder cut out 30 minutes of the film. This was fixed in the ultimate cut.
 

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Bruce Timm wants nothing to do with live action. I don’t blame him he is doing pretty good in animation.

Sometime it feels like WB has no comic book writers in the room. When planning the movies, they are still operating on the late 90 model of what would sell the “toys”, when they need to care more about the story.

There should of been a plan to work up to the flashpoint paradox. That would allow them to redo and recast after that.
 
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I cant fukk with the fact that half the movies the DCEU feel like set up movies, but in always gonna support comic movies so they continue to get put out:yeshrug:. I dont think the approach thet did was horrible, but their execution sure as hell was. Being 5 movies in and the biggest villain names you pulled out are Ares and Zod? I feel like Aquaman's gonna do well because theyre putting so much effort into making him a bad-ass. All I really want id a Red Hood and The Outlaws or Static Shock movie
It's even worse because they are set up movies to things that won't happen or have been changed.
 

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Even Deathstroke was supposed to be in Affleck's Batman. No telling the next time we see him now.
I think we will. The feedback has been overwhelmingly positive about that scene.


Which is ironic because it was originally cut out of the film altogether as it was a Snyder scene. Allegedly they added the teaser back in at the end within the last couple months.

Snyder posted him story boarding that scene like 6-8 months ago in twitter.
 
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