Was King Tut Black or Arabic?

[Poitier]

He really tried to divert the argument into a Biblical discussion cause he knows he got worked

Also, even if you account for the 400 years of slavery that the Egyptians had them slaves under, that would put them at 1600 BC. 3400 years after Pre-Dynastic Egypt

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Did this nikka literally say Jericho was around 10,000 years ago?!?!

I'm fukkin right now.

 

[filial_piety]

1. Ok, well I'm actually goin off of what archeologists and scientists have said on the subject. Just because you yourself don't know the language doesn't mean nobody does. Ever heard of the Rosetta Stone? Furthermore, you having been to Egypt and Israel in today's times gives you absolutely no real insight on people that lived several thousand years ago. You sound like a fukkin idiot if you think so. I literally lol'd when you mentioned Sumeria, Babylon, etc seeing as how they were once under Egyptian rule. And you say they relate more to anything in black Africa as if pyramids and temples of the same style dedicated to the same gods are not found in abundance throughout the Sudan. So was Nubia an Arab land as well? Better yet, why are there no pyramids throughout those places that you claim were the influence to Ancient Egypt? You tellin me the parent culture's had no ability to erect even somewhat similar structures? Egyptian works predate the works of those civs you named and it's been proven through carbon dating so it's science as well as history seeing as how all the historians of the day cite Egypt and Ethiopia as the sources of what they knew from philosophy to algebra. All this is documented, but what do I know nikkaz ain't shyt.

2. No, they aren't the only people. I'm a fukkin African and all my fam believes Egyptians were black. In fact, it's no question for any informed African that Egyptians were black. Whites have had the habit of stealing from Egypt since the Ancient Greeks and Herodotus himself pointed this out. He's also the same to have described the looks of Egyptians, I'm taking the word of an unbiased white man that was actually there over some bamboozled fukk like you.

3. The third point merely explained the 2nd point in more detail and it's not nonsense at all actually. From Ethiopianism came Black Nationalism, from Black Nationalism came Pan Africanism, and throughout this there was a peculiar appreciation for Ethiopia and when it was finally disproven that Egyptians were white or some race of people alien from the African continent then Egypt took on that role that Ethiopia had in the latter parts of the 19th and early 20th century. The idea is that black people that went through slavery draw on the glory of Africa to further instill pride within themselves. That's why, according to you, AAs seem to obsess with Egypt's blackness.

Slim, this shyt is like my hobby don't even fukk with me on this. If you want to believe your little public school definitions on what actually happened that's your choice but when nikkaz that have studied this shyt and still do drop knowledge don't disrespect cuz as is you sound stupid as fukk tryna flex that weak ass Arab argument. lmfao, Egyptians was beatin the shyt outta arabs and considered the lighter skinned peoples to be savages compared to themselves and the blacks of the Upper Nile.

Cuz, black people have been on Earth far longer than any humans, therefore had more time and a much more favorable environment to begin agriculture and human society. Egyptians was stuntin while Europe was still stuck in the neolithic, and all the little small states you named that these cacs like to prop up since it's more and more difficult for them to claim Egypt and be considered a legitimate scholar wouldn't of advanced as they did had it not been for Egypt. Get your weight up nikka and don't reply to me until you do cuz I ain't addressing any of those weak ass public high school history class notes.

You learned a second language by Rosetta Stone? LOL.

It would be far more impressive if you ponied up the money and actually stepped into an academic setting that specializes in learning languages, such as Middlebury College.

I love this tho...my favorite parts are...

"Ethiopianism"

"Herodotus be sayin"

"Slime don't fuk wit me on dis"

"Egyptians were (was) stuntin"

"tryna flex"

i think we have a tie for the dumb nikka award on this forum.

LOL

 

[Poitier]

Ahhhhh the good ole' Ad hominem attack

Good thing I learned the fallacies of argument in grade school

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I think Punt was in North-Eastern Somalia. Egyptians heavily traded with the Somali's. There is this place even called "Puntland" in Somalia.

To me, Punt was the Horn of Africa coast and some bits of the Eritrean/Ethiopian highlands and lowlands given the description. It's interesting tho how Somalis kept the name throughout tho.

 

[filial_piety]

Now he says "fallacies" and claims victim to "ad hominem" attacks...when anyone questions his lack of training, education or professional credibility.

LOL.

 

[Money Be Green]

Im confused

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Im confused

Well OP asked a redundant question that usually makes for good discussion either way, and now we're dealing with someone who knows as much about good trolling as he does about Ancient Egypt.

Kill, I'm still laughin at the cac.

 

[Poitier]

Now he says "fallacies" and claims victim to "ad hominem" attacks...when anyone questions his lack of training, education or professional credibility.

LOL.

You were being eloquent and funny for a minute there, don't die on me.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So, OP is Tom/Chris Mauro/Kr1shna_B1tchslap's new alias, eh?

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[Malik]

1. Ok, well I'm actually goin off of what archeologists and scientists have said on the subject. Just because you yourself don't know the language doesn't mean nobody does. Ever heard of the Rosetta Stone? Furthermore, you having been to Egypt and Israel in today's times gives you absolutely no real insight on people that lived several thousand years ago. You sound like a fukkin idiot if you think so. I literally lol'd when you mentioned Sumeria, Babylon, etc seeing as how they were once under Egyptian rule. And you say they relate more to anything in black Africa as if pyramids and temples of the same style dedicated to the same gods are not found in abundance throughout the Sudan. So was Nubia an Arab land as well? Better yet, why are there no pyramids throughout those places that you claim were the influence to Ancient Egypt? You tellin me the parent culture's had no ability to erect even somewhat similar structures? Egyptian works predate the works of those civs you named and it's been proven through carbon dating so it's science as well as history seeing as how all the historians of the day cite Egypt and Ethiopia as the sources of what they knew from philosophy to algebra. All this is documented, but what do I know nikkaz ain't shyt.

2. No, they aren't the only people. I'm a fukkin African and all my fam believes Egyptians were black. In fact, it's no question for any informed African that Egyptians were black. Whites have had the habit of stealing from Egypt since the Ancient Greeks and Herodotus himself pointed this out. He's also the same to have described the looks of Egyptians, I'm taking the word of an unbiased white man that was actually there over some bamboozled fukk like you.

3. The third point merely explained the 2nd point in more detail and it's not nonsense at all actually. From Ethiopianism came Black Nationalism, from Black Nationalism came Pan Africanism, and throughout this there was a peculiar appreciation for Ethiopia and when it was finally disproven that Egyptians were white or some race of people alien from the African continent then Egypt took on that role that Ethiopia had in the latter parts of the 19th and early 20th century. The idea is that black people that went through slavery draw on the glory of Africa to further instill pride within themselves. That's why, according to you, AAs seem to obsess with Egypt's blackness.

Slim, this shyt is like my hobby don't even fukk with me on this. If you want to believe your little public school definitions on what actually happened that's your choice but when nikkaz that have studied this shyt and still do drop knowledge don't disrespect cuz as is you sound stupid as fukk tryna flex that weak ass Arab argument. lmfao, Egyptians was beatin the shyt outta arabs and considered the lighter skinned peoples to be savages compared to themselves and the blacks of the Upper Nile.

Cuz, black people have been on Earth far longer than any humans, therefore had more time and a much more favorable environment to begin agriculture and human society. Egyptians was stuntin while Europe was still stuck in the neolithic, and all the little small states you named that these cacs like to prop up since it's more and more difficult for them to claim Egypt and be considered a legitimate scholar wouldn't of advanced as they did had it not been for Egypt. Get your weight up nikka and don't reply to me until you do cuz I ain't addressing any of those weak ass public high school history class notes.

 

[Swagnificent]

the white man done did a number on that c00n.

btw, I'm African and I too believe Ancient Egyptians were black. I'm not the only African I know that believes that either. In fact, I've never heard a single African in my life say Ancient Egyptians were non-black.

he's not black......@thereheis is obviously a cac pretending to be black online.....thinking his racist opinions will get more acceptance

like I said earlier, white people can't withstand the concept of a black egypt.....it would totally flip all their preconceptions about the world......for them to find out that the originators of civlization were black folks when they were in caves would destroy the white psyche.......that is why they gotta convince themselves they were anything but black......even if it takes turning obvious black folks like the Ethiopians or Somalians into non-black

just look at this quote from Count Constantine de Volney, a French historian who went to Egypt in the late 1700s

"All the Egyptians have a bloated face, puffed-up eyes, flat nose, thick lips – in a word, the true face of the mulatto. I was tempted to attribute it to the climate, but when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says:

' As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians
because, like them, they are black with woolly hair...

"When I visited the Sphinx, I could not help thinking that the figure of that monster furnished the true solution to the enigma(of how the modern Egyptians came to have their 'mulatto' appearance)

"In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood, mixed for several centuries with that of the Greeks and Romans, must have lost the intensity of its original color, while retaining nonetheless the imprint of its original mold.

"Just think that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites!

If white people actually accepted that Ancient Egypt was black they would have to re-evaluate everything about their reality.

 

[Swagnificent]

Can't find the Diop quote because he spoke on this but, it's pretty interesting to me how all of Europe is white. Pale skinned, red haired people in Ireland. White. Pale skinned, blonde haired people in Germany. White. Olive skinned, dark haired people in Greece, Spain or Italy. White. All considered white. People in Scandinavia don't look fukk like people in the Mediterranean but, they're all listed under the same racial classification But when it comes to Africa, historians have this rigid classification on blackness. Nikkas have to look like Djimon Hounsou before they consider anything to be completely and undoubtedly, black when we don't even follow that bullsh*t today. We consider people that look like Lance Gross to be black. We consider people like Columbus Short black. And we consider people like Omari Hardwick black.

That double standard is always hilarious to read. Its funny how when it came to slavery it didn't matter how much white you had in ya, you were still a nikka. You coulda looked like Paula Patton and you'd still get treated like Viola Davis. But when it comes to Africa, they parsing every little detail to separate us. I'm still astonished every time I hear those cacs that wanna deny Egypt was black flipping the script and saying East Africans we're really black.




I wonder how these East Africans woulda got treated during slavery. I'm sure cacs would welcomed them as caucasian brothas.

 

[Malik]

http://articles.philly.com/1994-12-17/news/25852935_1_egyptians-black-skinned-herodotus

The facts are these: Herodotus, a Greek writer in the 5th century B.C. claims that "the people of Colchis must be Egyptians because like them they are black-skinned and wooly-haired." (History, Book II.) The interesting thing about what Herodotus wrote is that had he believed the Egyptians to be any other color than black like other Africans he could have chosen other Greek words than the one he chose. His word is melaschroes, black-skinned. If Herodotus thought the Egyptians were white he would have used leucochroes. Had they been simply brown, like so many African Americans, he may have used phrenychroes, but he chose the word melaschroes. This word comes from the same root as Melanesia, the black island, or melanite, a black garnet. The ancient Greek use of "melas" was precise. Egypt is in Africa. Why shouldn't the ancient Egyptians be anything other than black?

The Greek philosopher Aristotle writes in the 4th century B.C. in Physiognomonica that the "Egyptians and Ethiopians were very black."

There are nearly one dozen other "classical" Greek writers who refer to the ancient Egyptians as black-skinned. Certainly Zimmerman could have tried to dismiss "blackness of skin and wooly-hair" as being an indication of Africanness, but he simply issued a support of the myth that the ancient Egyptians were other than what they were prior to the Arab invasion and conquest of 641 A.D. To see in print an unscientific or uninvestigated opinion in 1994 is disheartening. I would have thought that the professor would have at least looked at the records.

Ethiopia/Aethiopia comes from the Greek word Aithiops. Aithiops literally translates into "burnt face" Aethiopia was the region directly under Egypt (Herodutus' map below). I'm guessing before it was Nubia, Kush and Sudan, everything below Egypt was just Aethiopia. Whatever you want to call it......the Greeks made a point to reference that the cats down there looked a bit different If the Greeks called those people "burnt face", then turned around and wrote that the Egyptians resembled them.....what does that tell you?

 

[Malik]

Memnon, King of the Aethiopians/Ethiopians

African King that fought on the side of the Trojans during the Trojan War. Considered to be as fierce a warrior as Prince Hector but, ultimately not as strong as Achilles, who killed him. I didn't see his character in the 2004 movie Troy My school teachers didn't talk about King Memnon either when we were studying the Iliad and the Odyssey I found out about him in college when I researched the lost plays in the Epic Cycle. I wonder why he was left out

When Prince Hector, the pillar of Troy, was killed by Achilles, there was not much hope left for the Trojans, except that provided by Memnon, who wearing an armour made by Hephaestus, arrived from the east with a huge host to help the city. Memnon is said to have killed the Pylians Ereuthus and Pheron, who followed Nestor to theTrojan War, and also Nestor's son Antilochus, who died for his father's sake. For the horse kept Nestor's chariot from moving, since it had been wounded by Paris, when Memnon approached. Then Nestor shouted to his son Antilochus, who came to his rescue, and saved his father's life at the price of his own. For, as some say, Memnon slew him, although there are those who say that Antilochus was killed by Hector.

Nestor, who saw his son perish, asked Achilles, the Greek warrior, to rescue his son's body and armour. That is why Memnon and Achilles fought against each other in single combat, and although Memnon wounded Achilles in the arm, he himself lost his life when Achilles plunged his sword beneath his breast-bone. But some say that it was Achilles' spear that killed Memnon.