Was King Tut Black or Arabic?

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this is how the Ancient Egyptians looked.....vid is of the Afar tribe of North Eastern Ethiopia.....you can see that they are culturally similar to what we see in the hieroglypics.....especially when it comes to the hair.......PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE HAIR




now you can say these ain't black folks.....just don't expect me to take u seriously
 

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now that is complete BULLshyt

I know many Africans from Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia who claim that the Ancient Egyptians were their ancestors/descendants. Now you can start claiming those people aren't "black" but hey that is your prerogative.

In fact up until the last 200 years, even WHITE people considered the Ancient Egyptians black. Look at the writing of Greek historian Herodotus. He traveled extensively throughout Ancient Egypt and described the people as having BLACK SKIN AND WOOLY HAIR. Now you can say he's a liar or whatever but don't come in here acting like African Americans are the only ones saying this.

All Afro-centrist historians are doing now is simply REMINDING people of how Ancient Egyptians were historically looked at before white supremacy began white washing history.

Oh and one more thing, stop pretending to be black. Just say you a cac who doesn't believe nikkas are capable of making a civilization like Egypt. Its more believable an argument than pretending to be black and making these bs claims.

you're obviously one of them revolutionary nikkas who are emotionally invested into believing that the Ancient Egyptians are a reflection of wesley Snipes, Eddie Murphy and Dikembe Mutumbo, but I'm not here to argue to debate the subject. I know nikkaz like you are far too narrowly brained to think otherwise, and that any depiction or opinion that says otherwise will cripple what little sense of self esteem and pride in actual black african history that you are too much of a coward to pretend to have pride in--I get that. You aren't the first I've come across with this mentality and you certainly won't be the last.

But like I said, personally, according to my research, they aren't--No if ands or buts. My only agreement would be that the Nubians did conquer Egypt in the later dynasties and that is clearly depicted in their art. And I know tons of Africans as well, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Somalians etc etc...and NONE of them say that the Egyptians were "black"--not a single one. As a matter of fact, none of them appeared to have any interest in even exploring the subject primarily because they have pride in their own ancestry and knowledge of where they originally came from. :manny:

Lastly, you're a buffoon and you're embarrassing yourself. What I find annoying about nikkaz like you and many others here is that you are willing to convincingly and openly LIE to yourselves about who or what created Egypt in an effort to appease your very own ignorance and lack of pride in civilizations that were actually created by Blacks. The self-hate is thick in your brain. It would probably take a diamond laser to cut the shyt out of you. The second someone brings up "black civilizations" in Africa--nikkaz like yourself run right to the tippy top corner of the continent that is just ver 11 million square miles and borders the Arabian peninsula in order to prove to white people that you can be "civilized: too., and then you wonder why no one takes any of these arguments seriously.


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It's their movie they can cast whoever it is that they want. If white companies want to cast Leonardo Dicaprio as King Tut, then so be it. It's their choice and their interpretation, and there's nothing that you can do about it.

Stop complaining and start "petitioning" for black entertainers to recreate their own version of history instead backing Madea films and Amos & Andy like sattire films.

Fukk out of here white boy :camby:

I swear cacs are parasites the way the leach off of everybody's history then tell people they're wrong for being uncomfortable about it. Are you all that insecure that you can't watch a movie unless the characters in it resemble you? Doesn't matter whether you believe Egypt was Black or Arab, them nikkas weren't fukking White. They were POC one way or another. Ramses was, Tut was, Nefertiti was, Moses was, Jesus had to be. None of them were pale skinned and blonde :camby: Yall stay up in everybody's sh*t, white washing everything you get your hands on and everyone just supposed to look past it.....but when the inverse happens, cacs actually have the nerve to get upset. Yall got upset over a nikka in a comic book movie....of all things. We supposed to sit back and watch you white wash entire African (Exodus, Gods of Egypt) and Arab civilizations (Prince of Persia) when yall couldn't handle seeing one Black person in Thor :stopitslime: White people got mad when Black actors were cast in the Hunger Games when it was specifically stated that they were dark skinned in the book. Not only are cacs culture thieves, you're fukking hypocrites too :stopitslime:
 

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But like I said, personally, according to my research, they aren't--No if ands or buts. My only agreement would be that the Nubians did conquer Egypt in the later dynasties and that is clearly depicted in their art. And I know tons of Africans as well, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Somalians etc etc...and NONE of them say that the Egyptians were "black"--not a single one. As a matter of fact, none of them appeared to have any interest in even exploring the subject primarily because they have pride in their own ancestry and knowledge of where they originally came from. :manny:


Bruh

Ethiopia, Sudan, and Somalia are also by the Arabian peninsula, yet they are African?

Funny thing is, that Yemen was controlled by other Ethiopian tribes (Axum) and didn't become "Arab" until well after Ancient Egypt fell

Also, why would the opinions of modern day Africans matter about something that happened 7000 years before they were born? Are you that dense.

The top of the continent would have been Carthage, not Egypt.

Look at your avatar and your use of "Wesley Snipes, Dikembe Mutombo, Eddie Murphy." Trolling is a subtle art, not an overt one, you small dikk fakkit.

The foundation of human civilization was built by Africans and you Cacausians are inferior, mentally, historically, and genetically. Deal with it.
 

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you're obviously one of them revolutionary nikkas who are emotionally invested into believing that the Ancient Egyptians are a reflection of wesley Snipes, Eddie Murphy and Dikembe Mutumbo, but I'm not here to argue to debate the subject. I know nikkaz like you are far too narrowly brained to think otherwise, and that any depiction or opinion that says otherwise will cripple what little sense of self esteem and pride in actual black african history that you are too much of a coward to pretend to have pride in--I get that. You aren't the first I've come across with this mentality and you certainly won't be the last.

But like I said, personally, according to my research, they aren't--No if ands or buts. My only agreement would be that the Nubians did conquer Egypt in the later dynasties and that is clearly depicted in their art. And I know tons of Africans as well, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Somalians etc etc...and NONE of them say that the Egyptians were "black"--not a single one. As a matter of fact, none of them appeared to have any interest in even exploring the subject primarily because they have pride in their own ancestry and knowledge of where they originally came from. :manny:

Lastly, you're a buffoon and you're embarrassing yourself. What I find annoying about nikkaz like you and many others here is that you are willing to convincingly and openly LIE to yourselves about who or what created Egypt in an effort to appease your very own ignorance and lack of pride in civilizations that were actually created by Blacks. The self-hate is thick in your brain. It would probably take a diamond laser to cut the shyt out of you. The second someone brings up "black civilizations" in Africa--nikkaz like yourself run right to the tippy top corner of the continent that is just ver 11 million square miles and borders the Arabian peninsula in order to prove to white people that you can be "civilized: too., and then you wonder why no one takes any of these arguments seriously.


Peace

You so sure that the Egyptians wasn't black (even though it's widely known that Hasphetsut traveled all the way down to the "Land of Punt" aka the Horn of Afrca many times as she believed they were her ancestors) but you up in here not even dropping any proof.

Second of all, I'm pretty sure @2Quik4UHoes is Ethiopian and that nikka done said he believes the Ancient Egyptians was black. It's nikkas up in here like @Don Drogo @bdizzle talkin bout the Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, the Ghanian Empire. But you up in here talmbout some bullshyt about blacks not having pride in their ancestry. Man shut the fukk up. Ain't nobody fukkin with Mansa Musa, to this day he's still the richest man in history. Go look it up.

You're a tap dancin buffoon shyttin on blacks because African Americans culture and history was ripped from we can't have pride in the great civilizations of Africa? Cause New World blacks can't control what happened to their ancestors and don't have the privilege of going to ancestry.com you wanna rain on our parade? fukk wrong with you? I don't believe you black at all cause it's no way a black person would be up in here sayin that typa mess. Get some tact.
 

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You so sure that the Egyptians wasn't black (even though it's widely known that Hasphetsut traveled all the way down to the "Land of Punt" aka the Horn of Afrca many times as she believed they were her ancestors) but you up in here not even dropping any proof.

Second of all, I'm pretty sure @2Quik4UHoes is Ethiopian and that nikka done said he believes the Ancient Egyptians was black. It's nikkas up in here like @Don Drogo @bdizzle talkin bout the Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, the Ghanian Empire. But you up in here talmbout some bullshyt about blacks not having pride in their ancestry. Man shut the fukk up. Ain't nobody fukkin with Mansa Musa, to this day he's still the richest man in history. Go look it up.

You're a tap dancin buffoon shyttin on blacks because African Americans culture and history was ripped from we can't have pride in the great civilizations of Africa? Cause New World blacks can't control what happened to their ancestors and don't have the privilege of going to ancestry.com you wanna rain on our parade? fukk wrong with you? I don't believe you black at all cause it's no way a black person would be up in here sayin that typa mess. Get some tact.
the white man done did a number on that c00n.:wow:

btw, I'm African and I too believe Ancient Egyptians were black. I'm not the only African I know that believes that either. In fact, I've never heard a single African in my life say Ancient Egyptians were non-black.
 

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1. Egyptian civilzation pre-dates anything out of Arabia by thousands of years. How it's so hard to believe that Egyptians were black when they themselves said it in their hieroglyphs is beyond me. Farming techniques, society, math, science, astronomy, etc were developed down the Nile in Sudan and modern Ethiopia/Eritrea since sections of those countries are more equipped for mass agriculture. Humanity was populated from the Rift Valley and civilization through the Nile Valley. :ufdup:

2. AA's aren't the only ones to believe Egyptians were black. It was actually the work of African and West Indian scientists and historians that put all of this together. AA's particular affinity for Egypt came from the Black Pride movement in which things of African origin were celebrated. :ld:

3. To expand further. The reason why black people on the whole claim Egypt is because they transmitted human civilization to the rest of the world. It's a symptom of Ethiopianism which was a philosophy many slaves believed in which simply says that Ethiopians(thereby blacks) are the beginners of the world as we know it and their vitality speaks to vitality of blacks on the whole. Ethiopia was chosen because it's referenced in the Bible many times and they were the only characters whom the slaves knew were blacks which was a source of pride. Not to say that same philosophy can be used, but it can at least explain some of this stuff. :ehh:

Sorry, but in your first point I think you are entirely off. I am not an archeologist, or a professionally trained anthropologist (and neither are you), so I won't pretend to debate the fine details or to translate written records of a language that I can't translate or speak on my own. But first off "Arabs" (however you choose to describe the people in that region) have always been there. It really isn't too hard to believe considering that Egypt culturally has far more in common with ancient cultures such as Sumeria, Babylon, Jericho and other civilizations that are closer chronologically and geographically proximity wise, than it does with anything in "black Africa" (however you choose to describe that) simply placed on their methods or record keeping, farming, weaving and tool making. I personally have been and lived in both Israel (as a student) and traveled to Egypt several times and guess what? The people in Eilot (a city at the very southern tip of Israel) look just like the people in the Sinai( roughly a few miles away across the border between Egypt and Israel) and neither of them are people that I would consider "black." They are probably about as isolated and as undisturbed (if that were a word) as they were 10000 years ago genetically. :manny:

Personally though? I could care less. I have far more pride in the history and the cultural contributions of "black civilizations" below the Sahara to be even bothered with the recoloring of the Ancient Egyptians. It really just floors me how much energy and emotion that some of you put into debating the very tippity top top top right hand corner of an 11 million sq mile mass of land that borders the Mid-East just to earn your respect from white people.

2. Yes, AA's are the only people who do believe Ancient Egyptians are "black"...the few exceptions are those blacks who are strongly influenced by AA culture itself.

3. Your third point was pure nonsense (nothing personal).
 
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the white man done did a number on that c00n.:wow:

btw, I'm African and I too believe Ancient Egyptians were black. I'm not the only African I know that believes that either. In fact, I've never heard a single African in my life say Ancient Egyptians were non-black.

Exactly, my mother taught me from a young age about Kemet and all that she even told me that some of the practices that they took part in came from the Egyptians. It's so many links between the way they adorn themselves, their look, and plus Nubia was Upper Egypt too. I don't believe that person is black, it's no way. I don't care how big of a "c00n" you are, you don't shyt on other black people for having the misfortune of having our culture stripped from us. The reason The Panthers, Black Liberation Army, and Pan Africanism were created was to instill pride in New World Blacks (Afro-Carribeans, African Americans, Afro-Latinos) cause whitey forced us to believe we wasn't shyt. Imagine going through centuries of thinking your people aint shyt, and then one day you find out we had the best civilizations in the world to this day ain't no shyt fukkin with African Empires. That buffoon needs fukkin help.
 

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Sorry, but in your first point I think you are entirely off. I am not an archeologist, or a professionally trained anthropologist (and neither are you), so I won't pretend to debate the fine details. But first off "Arabs" (however you choose to describe the people in that region) have always been there. It really isn't too hard to believe considering that Egypt culturally has far more in common with ancient cultures such as Sumeria, Babylon, Jericho and other civilizations that are closer chronologically and geographically proximity wise, than it does with anything in "black Africa" (however you choose to describe that) simply placed on their methods or record keeping, farming, weaving and tool making. I personally have been and lived in both Israel (as a student) and traveled to Egypt several times and guess what? The people in Eilot (southern Israel) look like the people in the Sinai( roughly a few miles away across the border between Egypt and Israel) and neither of them are people that I would consider "black." :manny:

Personally though? I could care les. I have far more pride in the history and the cultural contributions of "black civilizations" below the Sahara to be even bothered with the recoloring of the Ancient Egyptians.

2. Yes, AA's are the only people who do believe Ancient Egyptians are "black"...the few exceptions are those blacks who are strongly influenced by AA culture itself.

3. Your third point was pure nonsense (nothing personal).

That's why you've made countless posts in this thread, cause you don't care right? Ain't no booboo the fool up in here, just admit what you tryna do. :stopitslime:
 

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Personally though? I could care less. I have far more pride in the history and the cultural contributions of "black civilizations" below the Sahara to be even bothered with the recoloring of the Ancient Egyptians. It really just floors me how much energy and emotion that some of you put into debating the very tippity top top top right hand corner of an 11 million sq mile mass of land that borders the Mid-East just to earn your respect from white people.

2. Yes, AA's are the only people who do believe Ancient Egyptians are "black"...the few exceptions are those blacks who are strongly influenced by AA culture itself.

3. Your third point was pure nonsense (nothing personal).


1.Why do people keep using the "Modern day Egyptians look like Arabs" when it's been posted in this thread multiple times that Muhammad's army conquered majority of the region, including Egypt, around 640 AD?

2. Generalizations are the mark of a person who is inept and inane.

3. Ancient Egypt predates all of those civilizations that you list from the Old Testament by 3000 years. The Kingdom of Kush clearly stands along side AE chronologically. Even in the Bible, it is mentioned that the Kushytes were black and saved the Jews from the Assyrians.

4. There is tons of DNA evidence and skeletal remains that support AE were significantly "Negroid."

5. Modern day Egypt may have more in common with the the Far East, but AE had very little in common, in comparison with their African counterparts. Where are the Pyramids in the Arab world? Ironically, it seems that cultures that DON'T come into heavy contact with Whites and Arabs, tend to build pyramids. This goes for AmerIndians and Asians, as well as Africans. Show me a Nordic pyramid, show me a pyramid that the Persians built?

6. How is Iraq and Iran closer to Egypt than an African nation?

7. Moses dates around 2000 BC. Jesus was 5000 years after the first pyramid. Zoroaster dates to around 600 BC. Muhammad dates 600 years after Jesus.
 
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You so sure that the Egyptians wasn't black (even though it's widely known that Hasphetsut traveled all the way down to the "Land of Punt" aka the Horn of Afrca many times as she believed they were her ancestors) but you up in here not even dropping any proof.

Second of all, I'm pretty sure @2Quik4UHoes is Ethiopian and that nikka done said he believes the Ancient Egyptians was black. It's nikkas up in here like @Don Drogo @bdizzle talkin bout the Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, the Ghanian Empire. But you up in here talmbout some bullshyt about blacks not having pride in their ancestry. Man shut the fukk up. Ain't nobody fukkin with Mansa Musa, to this day he's still the richest man in history. Go look it up.

You're a tap dancin buffoon shyttin on blacks because African Americans culture and history was ripped from we can't have pride in the great civilizations of Africa? Cause New World blacks can't control what happened to their ancestors and don't have the privilege of going to ancestry.com you wanna rain on our parade? fukk wrong with you? I don't believe you black at all cause it's no way a black person would be up in here sayin that typa mess. Get some tact.

Before I even take your dumb nikka jargon serious, can you please outline your training and education on the subject outside of websites and quotes from message boards?

Thanks in Advance.
 

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That's why you've made countless posts in this thread, cause you don't care right? Ain't no booboo the fool up in here, just admit what you tryna do. :stopitslime:

I think this should be nominated for dumb paranoid nikka logic of the day. My first post clearly stated that my take on the subject was purely opinion based. The point of posting that opinion was to simply contribute to forum with a different viewpoint on the matter. I'm not here to debate the issue really, because I am not here to play the online academic who can supposedly speak on the subject with a strong degree of expertise.

If you don't like it--just suck it up and deal with it, I won't take it personal if you disagree with me. :manny:
 

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Before I even take your dumb nikka jargon serious, can you please outline your training and education on the subject outside of websites and quotes from message boards?

Thanks in Advance.

You're such a simple nikka. I don't need to prove anything to you, it's nikkas in here that done already dropped proof so now you scramble around talmbout where ya training and education. Cause training and education from white institutions is gon make you believe what I gotta say? I see through your c00n shyt.
 

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I think this should be nominated for dumb paranoid nikka logic of the day. My first post clearly stated that my take on the subject was purely opinion based. The point of posting that opinion was to simply contribute to forum with a different viewpoint on the matter. I'm not here to debate the issue really, because I am not here to play the online academic who can supposedly speak on the subject with a strong degree of expertise.

If you don't like it--just suck it up and deal with it, I won't take it personal if you disagree with me. :manny:

No one is speaking with "a strong sense of expertise." That's why you quote and link your sources. So far I've seen links to National Geographic, Scientific Journals, Reputable universities, government websites. That's as reputable as you can get and the utmost level of expertise. No one linked "Afrocentric" "Militant" websites or youtube videos. Shyt I linked a History Channel documentary and they have a clear Aryan agenda, and yet, even they had to admit Cleopatra was half-Black.
 
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