don't be mad UPS is hiring...
Real talk, if n1ggas is trying to make some legit dough, and don't want to be a f*ck tard in retail, they should get into sales.
Sales = capitalist American Dream,
sky's the limit in sales...
Walmart workers striking.......?
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don't be mad UPS is hiring...
Real talk, if n1ggas is trying to make some legit dough, and don't want to be a f*ck tard in retail, they should get into sales.
Sales = capitalist American Dream,
sky's the limit in sales...
LMAO them and Fed Ex popped into my head before you even posted that.
I was laid off about 4 months ago and went into both UPS and Fed ex just in case nothing came about to be a seasonal worker for the holidays. They're both good companies....you do a good job as as seasonal guy and theyll hire you full time.
if you cant sell yourself...
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
I worked at retail like i said earlier in the thread and yes it is possible to move up the latter but only if you go hard and have luck, managers in these places look out for friends and females they sleep with, there were plenty of good people who worked where i did and never moved up, i did only after threatening to quit after me and the store manager had a beef over me moving up, he opposed it to push a friend of his, so i went to the top and got promoted, i had people who i worked with turn on me and hate because i wanted better for myself, that is where i drew the line, i feel bad for some but the majority are losers, i knew a guy who worked 11 years there in stock, made only 10.00 an hour and bytched and moaned but did nothing to better himself, another guy from Africa peeped how he smarter than the rest of the stock crew but the hate he got prevented him from growing in the company, he went to school and got a job at IBM, he quit and never came back, like i said at certain times in life you can complain or do something about it and move on, i did.
Lol at people siding with the corprations
I hope some of you guys don't lose your jobs and end up working at Walmart.
Walmart is the biggest example of corporate welfare in the US and you have these faux conservatives co-signing them. Walmart is one of the worst things to happen to America in the past 30 years and most don't realize it. You got cities paying Walmart to build though tax abatements that smaller business have no access to. But hey as long as I can get Oreo cookies for 1.99 and my 52 inch TV for 299, what do I care?
That's Walmart's fault though?
Not siding with them but a lot of beef that people have with Walmart is misguided. They are responsible for fair treatment of their employees but not with getting breaks.
exactly bro that's how I feel. There's some great people who legitimately work "hard", but the majority people whom work in retail, are "ambition less" individuals who overwhelming had kids at an early age, I mean at least their working.
As far as retail workers receiving benefits, I'm all for it.
Especially health care. My philosophy is that America, should have universal health care like the rest of the "Western Developed Countries". Where even a bum is a candidate for 5 star health care services. You can't put a price on life.
You don't think they have people who lobby to get them favourable treatment?
It's still not their fault. The government is fukked up...from the Feds on down. They are making profit in a way that is currently legal. Corporations are not humans, I wish people stop thinking they have a heart or actually give a fukk about anything aside from making the most profit.
feelosofer
#ninergang
No but my issue with with the corporation and the establishment that allows it to happen.
They're not humans and they don't have a heart, but they do respond to pressure from the public. If enough people were like "hey, it's bullshyt that Walmart gets special treatment from government and underpays its workers" then they would change. Maintaining a good public image is key to the modern corporation.
Not siding with the corporations. I'm siding with people working hard and not depending on a bullshyt retail job. Having ambitions to want more.
Not everyone wants more. These people at Walmart are highly replaceable and they are not unionized. They are asking fro medical benefits and $13 an hour. Hey I hope they get it if they are organized and make enough of a stink about it. Like I said I could care less, but are they hurting the company or themselves?
They can picket but I gaurantee there are people crossing the lines to work.
End of the day they complaining for more and may get done like Hostess.
Jobless complaining from the company of their own home while they look for other work.
Not everyone wants more. These people at Walmart are highly replaceable and they are not unionized. They are asking fro medical benefits and $13 an hour. Hey I hope they get it if they are organized and make enough of a stink about it. Like I said I could care less, but are they hurting the company or themselves?
They can picket but I gaurantee there are people crossing the lines to work.
End of the day they complaining for more and may get done like Hostess.
Jobless complaining from the company of their own home while they look for other work.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
@this thread. Is this still HL or did I stumble into the twilight zone? This is not a left-right argument, or an argument about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps vs. being lazy and dependent on government. This is about corporate malfeasance that hurts everyone. lol@all these supposed conservatives backing Wal-Mart and blaming the workers here. Wal-Mart is artificially driving down wages. Do you not understand that? Yes, I know it's unskilled retail work, but Wal-Mart pays their employees 31% LESS than other retail employers on average, and they're the most profitable retailer in the nation. The average salary for a Wal-Mart associate is $15,500. That's not enough to live on without public assistance. Their benefits are crap..one doctor visit a year and covers only $250, and you have to work at least 24 hours a week to get them. But they do flex scheduling to keep people from qualifying.
Regarding the argument that Wal-Mart is a corporation and they don't have to care about shyt but they're bottom line. Technically, that's correct but believe it or not, there are PLENTY of corporations who gives enough of a shyt about their employees to provide them with decent benefits and pay for their workers at the low-skill end that don't make a fraction of what Wal-Mart makes in profit. I work for one. Not every corporation is a bad actor. Wal-Mart is. But to absolve them of any corporate responsibility when their 6 heirs have more combined wealth than the bottom 42% of the country while shytting on their workers for being lazy and unmotivated sounds like it borders on stockholm syndrome.
Regarding their employees being lazy or not wanting to better themselves or whatever, like I said they are the largest employer in the nation. I asked Trip why is that 3 times and he still hasn't responded. They're the largest employer because there's a vacuum for unskilled, non-college or trade-educated work and the only thing left for most average folks are low-paying service jobs of the Wal-Mart variety. Also Wal-Mart actively contributes to this by moving into towns and putting all the local businesses out of business, and creating food deserts where they're the only employer. You got dudes here that live in places like NY like "Why don't they just find a another job?" A lot of these places are small towns where there aren't many other jobs, often because Wal-Mart drove them into bankruptcy.
As far as school, let's be real. Everyone is not equipped to get a degree in engineering or IT. Public education from K-12 as it is is already crap and doesn't prepare people for anything. The people who work at Wal-Mart today are the same people who 40 years ago would be working at a GM plant for a livable wage and good benefits. Those were the people who comprised America's middle class and bought houses in the suburbs so the rest of us could maybe afford to get a college education.
I worked in a grocery store myself for 3 and 1/2 years. There were some people there who were lazy, but they were usually the younger ones like myself. Most of the older people there were good people who worked hard, never had much, and were just trying to make ends meet. As far as the motivation factor, if you paid people $12-14 per hour, gave them full-time employment and decent benefits, you'd see a lot of frowns turned to smiles and much more productive and motivated employees. And it wouldn't even put a dent in their profit margin
It's pretty simple. When I went from a minimum wage retail job up to a call center job that paid way more and gave me benefits I was motivated as fukk to work just like most other people in the same boat. And if the still underperform after the up in pay scale, then you fire their ass.
What's really pathetic here is these Horatio Alger conservatives shytting on workers and defending the poster child of the evils of corporate America. Wal-Mart is not creating a rising tide that lifts all boats, morons. Nobody except for the execs and rich shareholders of Wal-Mart benefits from driving down wages, destroying competition, denying benefits, and draining social services and taxpayer dollars. They put competing retailers out of business, take their employees, pay them less, don't give them benefits and hours and then they're forced to live off public assistance. About 2 out of every 5 dollars in food stamps spent goes to Wal-Mart. So they force people into government dependency, then reap the benefits of taxpayer subsidies, while driving up healthcare costs, and draining the social safety net. Not to mention all the millions in tax revenue that would be generated at a local, state, and federal level from increased deductions if they paid their employees a more fair market wage.
@conservatives defending this shyt. Dude came in here talking making a strawman argument about liberals wanting the government to redistribute wealth when Wal-Mart is actively redistributing wealth from the lower and middle classes to the 1%, sucking the government teet, and forcing people into the government dependency you conservatives like to bytch about so much.
Get your minds right, nikkas.
Killah Ray
Carolina hail to thee....
I live in the fukking Carolinas and they start out at around $14 an hour around here....so if they're making that down here, I know that shyt is way higher elsewhere...
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
True i agree with most of this, Walmart does drive salaries down, when you have that many people working there and no one complains this will happen, i worked at Barneys also and that did not go down, they have mostly white sales people and when they wanted to make changes, the workers killed it fast, they all have 40 hours and benefits and starting salary without commission is 48 k with commission it is over 75 in most departments.
lol@all these supposed conservatives backing Wal-Mart and blaming the workers here. Wal-Mart is artificially driving down wages. Do you not understand that? Yes, I know it's unskilled retail work, but Wal-Mart pays their employees 31% LESS than other retail employers on average, and they're the most profitable retailer in the nation. The average salary for a Wal-Mart associate is $15,500. That's not enough to live on without public assistance. Their benefits are crap..one doctor visit a year and covers only $250, and you have to work at least 24 hours a week to get them. But they do flex scheduling to keep people from qualifying.
Regarding the argument that Wal-Mart is a corporation and they don't have to care about shyt but they're bottom line. Technically, that's correct but believe it or not, there are PLENTY of corporations who gives enough of a shyt about their employees to provide them with decent benefits and pay for their workers at the low-skill end that don't make a fraction of what Wal-Mart makes in profit. I work for one. Not every corporation is a bad actor. Wal-Mart is. But to absolve them of any corporate responsibility when their 6 heirs have more combined wealth than the bottom 42% of the country while shytting on their workers for being lazy and unmotivated sounds like it borders on stockholm syndrome.
Regarding their employees being lazy or not wanting to better themselves or whatever, like I said they are the largest employer in the nation. I asked Trip why is that 3 times and he still hasn't responded. They're the largest employer because there's a vacuum for unskilled, non-college or trade-educated work and the only thing left for most average folks are low-paying service jobs of the Wal-Mart variety. Also Wal-Mart actively contributes to this by moving into towns and putting all the local businesses out of business, and creating food deserts where they're the only employer. You got dudes here that live in places like NY like "Why don't they just find a another job?" A lot of these places are small towns where there aren't many other jobs, often because Wal-Mart drove them into bankruptcy.
As far as school, let's be real. Everyone is not equipped to get a degree in engineering or IT. Public education from K-12 as it is is already crap and doesn't prepare people for anything. The people who work at Wal-Mart today are the same people who 40 years ago would be working at a GM plant for a livable wage and good benefits. Those were the people who comprised America's middle class and bought houses in the suburbs so the rest of us could maybe afford to get a college education.
I worked in a grocery store myself for 3 and 1/2 years. There were some people there who were lazy, but they were usually the younger ones like myself. Most of the older people there were good people who worked hard, never had much, and were just trying to make ends meet. As far as the motivation factor, if you paid people $12-14 per hour, gave them full-time employment and decent benefits, you'd see a lot of frowns turned to smiles and much more productive and motivated employees. And it wouldn't even put a dent in their profit margin
It's pretty simple. When I went from a minimum wage retail job up to a call center job that paid way more and gave me benefits I was motivated as fukk to work just like most other people in the same boat. And if the still underperform after the up in pay scale, then you fire their ass.
What's really pathetic here is these Horatio Alger conservatives shytting on workers and defending the poster child of the evils of corporate America. Wal-Mart is not creating a rising tide that lifts all boats, morons. Nobody except for the execs and rich shareholders of Wal-Mart benefits from driving down wages, destroying competition, denying benefits, and draining social services and taxpayer dollars. They put competing retailers out of business, take their employees, pay them less, don't give them benefits and hours and then they're forced to live off public assistance. About 2 out of every 5 dollars in food stamps spent goes to Wal-Mart. So they force people into government dependency, then reap the benefits of taxpayer subsidies, while driving up healthcare costs, and draining the social safety net. Not to mention all the millions in tax revenue that would be generated at a local, state, and federal level from increased deductions if they paid their employees a more fair market wage.
Dude came in here talking making a strawman argument about liberals wanting the government to redistribute wealth when Wal-Mart is actively redistributing wealth from the lower and middle classes to the 1%, sucking the government teet, and forcing people into the government dependency you conservatives like to bytch about so much.
lol@all these supposed conservatives backing Wal-Mart and blaming the workers here. Wal-Mart is artificially driving down wages. Do you not understand that? Yes, I know it's unskilled retail work, but Wal-Mart pays their employees 31% LESS than other retail employers on average, and they're the most profitable retailer in the nation. The average salary for a Wal-Mart associate is $15,500. That's not enough to live on without public assistance. Their benefits are crap..one doctor visit a year and covers only $250, and you have to work at least 24 hours a week to get them. But they do flex scheduling to keep people from qualifying.
Regarding the argument that Wal-Mart is a corporation and they don't have to care about shyt but they're bottom line. Technically, that's correct but believe it or not, there are PLENTY of corporations who gives enough of a shyt about their employees to provide them with decent benefits and pay for their workers at the low-skill end that don't make a fraction of what Wal-Mart makes in profit. I work for one. Not every corporation is a bad actor. Wal-Mart is. But to absolve them of any corporate responsibility when their 6 heirs have more combined wealth than the bottom 42% of the country while shytting on their workers for being lazy and unmotivated sounds like it borders on stockholm syndrome.
Regarding their employees being lazy or not wanting to better themselves or whatever, like I said they are the largest employer in the nation. I asked Trip why is that 3 times and he still hasn't responded. They're the largest employer because there's a vacuum for unskilled, non-college or trade-educated work and the only thing left for most average folks are low-paying service jobs of the Wal-Mart variety. Also Wal-Mart actively contributes to this by moving into towns and putting all the local businesses out of business, and creating food deserts where they're the only employer. You got dudes here that live in places like NY like "Why don't they just find a another job?" A lot of these places are small towns where there aren't many other jobs, often because Wal-Mart drove them into bankruptcy.
As far as school, let's be real. Everyone is not equipped to get a degree in engineering or IT. Public education from K-12 as it is is already crap and doesn't prepare people for anything. The people who work at Wal-Mart today are the same people who 40 years ago would be working at a GM plant for a livable wage and good benefits. Those were the people who comprised America's middle class and bought houses in the suburbs so the rest of us could maybe afford to get a college education.
I worked in a grocery store myself for 3 and 1/2 years. There were some people there who were lazy, but they were usually the younger ones like myself. Most of the older people there were good people who worked hard, never had much, and were just trying to make ends meet. As far as the motivation factor, if you paid people $12-14 per hour, gave them full-time employment and decent benefits, you'd see a lot of frowns turned to smiles and much more productive and motivated employees. And it wouldn't even put a dent in their profit margin
It's pretty simple. When I went from a minimum wage retail job up to a call center job that paid way more and gave me benefits I was motivated as fukk to work just like most other people in the same boat. And if the still underperform after the up in pay scale, then you fire their ass.
What's really pathetic here is these Horatio Alger conservatives shytting on workers and defending the poster child of the evils of corporate America. Wal-Mart is not creating a rising tide that lifts all boats, morons. Nobody except for the execs and rich shareholders of Wal-Mart benefits from driving down wages, destroying competition, denying benefits, and draining social services and taxpayer dollars. They put competing retailers out of business, take their employees, pay them less, don't give them benefits and hours and then they're forced to live off public assistance. About 2 out of every 5 dollars in food stamps spent goes to Wal-Mart. So they force people into government dependency, then reap the benefits of taxpayer subsidies, while driving up healthcare costs, and draining the social safety net. Not to mention all the millions in tax revenue that would be generated at a local, state, and federal level from increased deductions if they paid their employees a more fair market wage.
Dude came in here talking making a strawman argument about liberals wanting the government to redistribute wealth when Wal-Mart is actively redistributing wealth from the lower and middle classes to the 1%, sucking the government teet, and forcing people into the government dependency you conservatives like to bytch about so much.
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