Walmart workers striking.......?

[Trip]

I really dont disagree with anything Victor said other than the benefit of the doubt he's giving folks with a defeatist attitude.

Walmart is bad for the country I've never argued that it wasnt.

Adjusting and creating value for yourself isnt impossible. It sucks, but showing up to the plant and doing mindless work while being protected by a union isnt reality anymore. we had no competition in the 1950's.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I really dont disagree with anything Victor said other than the benefit of the doubt he's giving folks with a defeatist attitude.

Walmart is bad for the country I've never argued that it wasnt.

Adjusting and creating value for yourself isnt impossible. It sucks, but showing up to the plant and doing mindless work while being protected by a union isnt reality anymore. we had no competition in the 1950's.

Then why have you spent the whole time in the thread shytting on the employees for asking for pay that puts them above the poverty line and healthcare from the world's most profitable retailer and not saying a critical word about Wal-Mart's disgusting business practices that drive people into poverty and government dependency?

 

[Trip]

Then why have you spent the whole time in the thread shytting on the employees for asking for pay that puts them above the poverty line and healthcare and not saying a critical word about Wal-Mart's disgusting business practices?

I have no problem with the workers asking for a raise nor have I ever said that.

I was responding to the belief that showing up and doing mindless retail work and doing the bare minimum should allow a certain lifestyle. At some point, you have to provide value.

 

[Jixson]

I worked at Walmart for about 5 months. I quit on principal because of shyt pay, shyt hours, shyt managers being complete pricks while not doing shyt, and I almost fell asleep on the way to work every few days(was Graveyard).

I have not gotten a job in the year I quit. I can't even get a fukking first interview anywhere except BK or McDonald's, which I don't want to do, but I guarantee they would pay better than Walmart.

I worked for a place I enjoyed for 7 years. They pa was not spectacular, but after they let me take a couple Christmas seasons off, and about three weeks off after my father died I was okay with it, and I had pretty damn good benefits. I was at $11.50 or so an hour when I quit(always forget if 50 or 25). I got the interview at Walmart and my pay was 9.75, and that was with being paid I think $1.50 more because it was overnight. No discussion, no negotiation. Suck on that shyt pay.

No vacation for two years. No insurance for a complete year, and it required at least 25 hours a week for the benefits. The previous company(Barnes & Noble) was a year, or 1000 hours, whichever came first for benefits and vacation after the first year. 2 weeks after two years. 3 weeks after five years and 4 weeks after ten. Part-time people got pretty good benefits, and some vacation time from them as well.

The bytch is, when I moved the state I live in sucks dikk. We have One Barnes & Noble, Zero Targets, and so much undeveloped land people would cum if they could get the rights to build here. It is Vermont, and the fukking hippies took over 25 years ago, and shyt on anyone trying to "ruin the beauty" of the state. We can't even have billboards on the road.

 

[Gus Money]

Just curious, why dont they have other options?

Many people simply don't have the same opportunities to move ahead and just find another job at the drop of a hat. This is not debatable. VVD has already explained this far more eloquently than I can.

I was responding to the belief that showing up and doing mindless retail work and doing the bare minimum should allow a certain lifestyle. At some point, you have to provide value.

A certain lifestyle? Who has argued that retail workers should get anything other than a livable wage and reasonable benefits? Nobody is trying to say they should make 6 figure salaries.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

That's the whole point of retail work. It was never designed to be a career. It's geared to younger ppl looking to work part time.

Not true at all. Inflation has ruined the game for American citizens. Prior to about 1980, 98% of jobs provided a living wage and that most certainly included retail.

As a matter of fact, retail provided a living wage for half of the 80s as well.

 

[Higher Tech]

I live in the fukking Carolinas and they start out at around $14 an hour around here....so if they're making that down here, I know that shyt is way higher elsewhere...

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Walmart_0.pdf

Official Company payscale starts at 8 - 8.50. You can move up to 10.60 after 6 years. It's a .pdf so you'll have to read it yourself. The document lists everything from starting wages to max wages. Max raises per year, scales for raises for promotions, etc.

So if you say they start at 14, but the company says they start at 8... I tend to believe the company.

Walmart's Internal Compensation Documents Reveal Systematic Limit On Advancement

This is the article it's attached to.

 

[YBE]

Many people simply don't have the same opportunities to move ahead and just find another job at the drop of a hat. This is not debatable. VVD has already explained this far more eloquently than I can.

A certain lifestyle? Who has argued that retail workers should get anything other than a livable wage and reasonable benefits? Nobody is trying to say they should make 6 figure salaries.

Apparently being able to afford rent, electricity and healthcare is a privilege

I said the same thing VVD said (not as eloquently) in the thread we had over in TLR. Wal-Mart, and to a lesser extent Target, can easily afford to pay their employees $12 instead of $7. Productivity would soar because one, people would be less stressed, seeing as its a livable wage, and two, no one would want to lose that job. These stores would save more in the long run due to the increased productivity & by empowering the lower tiered workers to embrace more responsibilities, maybe corporate could contract redundant management clocking $80,000 just to sit in the back office all day

 

[Serious]

Official Company payscale starts at 8 - 8.50. You can move up to 10.60 after 6 years. It's a .pdf so you'll have to read it yourself. The document lists everything from starting wages to max wages. Max raises per year, scales for raises for promotions, etc.

So if you say they start at 14, but the company says they start at 8... I tend to believe the company.



This is the article it's attached to.

at minimum after 6 years, lackluster employees are entitled to a whopping $10.60 an hour( ), it's still feasible for a truly dedicated, "hard working" individual to make over $18 an hour + overtime which "could" equate to 40-50k a year, which is nothing to us bosses on the-coli.

These CEO's get some crazy compensation packages. I'm writing a paper on that right now

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I hate the Blame game, sue to win society here in America. Maybe because I watched my pops claw his way from the bottom and make it on his own. No handouts, no bytching and complaining about wages. He washed dishes and saved his money until he could start his own business.

It's why the Mexicans and other immigrants come to this country with nothing and scrub floors and do a lot of shyt we wouldn't even consider doing for next to nothing, below minumum wage and under the table. They are different from us because they could give a fucck about Jordans or looking fresh or stunting. They'll live 3 families to a 2 bedroom spot and each save $ and stack to get one person out, then another person out etc. Seen it wit my own eyes.

These folks complain and blame these corporations who do nothing but act like CORPORATIONS.................It's easy, go to school, excel, bust your hump keep your mouth shut and work. What do they want Walmart to do????????????????????


Because I tell you what, if they walk off the job tomorrow and make threats, there are folks out there who would jump at the opportunity to work for that wage.

I saw dude wit the dreads on TV this am and he was saying how bad it was and Walmart spies on him and all this other stuff. The interviewer asked him why he worked there and he had the dummy face. All my sympathy went out the window.

It's a bunch of folks who want a days off on the busiest shopping days and it spun out of their control.

I'm going to be a business owner soon and all I gotta say is if you have any complaints about anything, you can walk, freely. I'm doing what I have to do to make a profit and feed my family. You do what u need to do to feed yours.

What type of republican rhetoric is this....

nikkas been working hard since the 1700s and it still hasn't transpired into ownership. Every time we tried, it was destroyed by the majority.

Using foreigners is a bad example because the cultural mindset is very different and on top of that, most of their income goes back to their indigenous country and is not truly circulated in the American economy.

People say just go to school and that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Everyone can't have a degree. If they did, then what would it be worth, not to mention the absurd loans you'll have to accrue just to pursue one.

The economy does not work like this, and with the rate of inflation, its going to get even more absurd....

America is setup to have winners and losers...In order to have that top 1% you need that bottom 50% to stay at the bottom...White man at the top, and now its the immigrants at the bottom who are making it easy for the white man at the top to get money hand over fist.

 

[Higher Tech]

at minimum after 6 years, lackluster employees are entitled to a whopping $10.60 an hour( ), it's still feasible for a truly dedicated, "hard working" individual to make over $18 an hour + overtime which "could" equate to 40-50k a year, which is nothing to us bosses on the-coli.

These CEO's get some crazy compensation packages. I'm writing a paper on that right now

According to that payscale doc, if you start at 8 bucks, your max in 16. It's actually a pretty complicated payscale. They paid someone a lot of money to keep from paying someone a decent wage.

 

[ThaBoyBam]

I'm for this all the way. A union for retail employees world definitely change the game. The cost will get shifted to the consumers though at the end. No way around that.

 

[Lord Vile]

The bytch is, when I moved the state I live in sucks dikk. We have One Barnes & Noble, Zero Targets, and so much undeveloped land people would cum if they could get the rights to build here. It is Vermont, and the fukking hippies took over 25 years ago, and shyt on anyone trying to "ruin the beauty" of the state. We can't even have billboards on the road.

Damn Breh, that sucks why not try and relocate to NH or MA?

 

[daze23]

It's retail. It's not supposed to be a career.

you got to look at the context that walmart put all those small businesses out of business and blah blah blah. it's water under the bridge, but they did destroy a lot of legit careers (owning a small business) to create these 'retail jobs'. now they're a huge company, that's obviously doing well, so the least they could do is treat their employees fair

or if they've become too big to afford to treat their army of employees fairly, then maybe they should slow down on the road to world domination

 

[daze23]

The bytch is, when I moved the state I live in sucks dikk. We have One Barnes & Noble, Zero Targets, and so much undeveloped land people would cum if they could get the rights to build here. It is Vermont, and the fukking hippies took over 25 years ago, and shyt on anyone trying to "ruin the beauty" of the state. We can't even have billboards on the road.

well why'd you move there? it doesn't seem fair to move somewhere and then expect it to change to suit you