Tribal Outkast
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My head hurt from listening to this lol. My God
People hate jay success so much they cling to 96 & 97 like their life depended on it. It’s damn near 30 years and this is still a discussion lol
Y’all kill me with this shyt lol. So jay is the only rapper to say how great he is lol
bu bu he did it too much and people believed it.
Nah he not the only rapper. He one of the first to really do it tho. Now all these goofy nikkas try to do what he did but have less than half the talent as him. Same with the “no writing” shyt. He even says he regrets it because these nikkas ain’t even mastering writing first before they running wit that bullshyt.Y’all kill me with this shyt lol. So jay is the only rapper to say how great he is lol
bu bu he did it too much and people believed it.
It was called classic well before the blueprint 1. The only time he mentioned it in song was on Hard knock life. Other than that. the Hiphop community championed that album after vol1 was disappointing. It’s not a coincidence he became the guy with vol 2 overnight. It was based off his previous workTo be fair Jay went on a "'Reasonable Doubt' was a classic!" campaign and people did buy into it. When that album made very little noise in real time.
Fred.
Who mentioned Nas in 98? I clearly said DMX was Jay’s only comp. I said the next year over it was Nas, DMX, Eminem, and Juvy who were all basically neck and neck. That’s facts.So much revisionist history goes on nowadays, its...
To be clear, its not just Wack, either. I see it too often, from posters within these threads. I was in Junior High, in 98'. The ONLY competition to Jay in 98', was X. Posters in here, listing Nas.
Jay and X were the toast of the town, period. Whether X was bigger than Jay, is another argument, but X was in everything (music, movies, etc). Cash Money was certainly ascending, and nggas were fukkin wit them heavy (as Southern artists). Juvy was definitely up there (as something new to the scene), but he wasn't X and Hov level.
If anything, it was their movement (refreshing), as a whole, garnering that level of popularity...
with Juvy as the spearhead. Again, this 98', when NY, was NY, when it came to hip-hop. NY had all the heavyweights, and was the bastion (Jay, X, Nas, Pun, Lox, Cam, Puff etc...). Baby may have felt how he felt, but I'm sure nggas were payin Hov and Rocafella homage. Maybe not Baby, Juvy, Slim, etc...they were grown men. But Wayne, Turk, and BG were youngins. Them nggas were probably star-struck, at them east coast titans...
Wayne certainly had a thing for Jay, as he ascended, down the line. He knew what it was, and did wanna be up under the ROC imprint. Like others already said, WTF is Wack even arguing about, once Just said he was there? Wack is a clown.
This is lies. It was more based off of the lead single “Hard Knock Life” and the fact he became heavily associated with X and Ruff Ryders. Money Ain’t A Thang was dope but it didn’t push him like that. It was on JD’s album first as well. Don’t get it twisted nikkas fukked wit Jay already but that lead single and DMX being so close in proximity pushed that nikka out of the stratosphere. I know this for a fact. I was a DJ at the time and I went to the Hard Knock Life tour.It was called classic well before the blueprint 1. The only time he mentioned it in song was on Hard knock life. Other than that. the Hiphop community championed that album after vol1 was disappointing. It’s not a coincidence he became the guy with vol 2 overnight. It was based off his previous work
So a dude with a hot album just instantly call the guy after one album lol that has never happened in Hiphop.This is lies. It was more based off of the lead single “Hard Knock Life” and the fact he was became heavily associated with X and Ruff Ryders. Don’t get it twisted nikkas fukked wit Jay already but that lead single and DMX being so close in proximity pushed that nikka out of the stratosphere. I know this for a fact. I was a DJ at the time and I went to the Hard Knock Life tour.
It was called classic well before the blueprint 1.
So a dude with a hot album just instantly call the guy after one album lol
The source also gave Snoop debut the same rating as Hov. So idk what to tell uTo who?
I knew one guy that had that album when it came out. Nobody really cared about Jay when "RD" dropped. Even The Source review mentioned he sounded like a gang of other rappers already in that lane. Mafioso/crime rap was a dime a dozen in 1996.
Fred.
Juvy was not out selling Jay Z. They was off about so much shyt.
The source also gave Snoop debut the same rating as Hov. So idk what to tell u
To who?
I knew one guy that had that album when it came out. Nobody really cared about Jay when "RD" dropped. Even The Source review mentioned he sounded like a gang of other rappers already in that lane. Mafioso/crime rap was a dime a dozen in 1996.
That's exactly what happened to BIG.
Fred.