Cash Money was certainly ascending, and nggas were fukkin wit them heavy (as Southern artists). Juvy was definitely up there (as something new to the scene), but he wasn't X and Hov level.
If anything, it was their movement (refreshing), as a whole, garnering that level of popularity...
with Juvy as the spearhead. Again, this was 1998, when NY, was NY, when it came to hip-hop. NY had all the heavyweights, and was the bastion (Jay, X, Nas, Pun, Lox, Cam, Puff etc...). Baby may have felt how he felt, but I'm sure nggas were payin Hov and Rocafella homage. Maybe not Baby, Juvy, Slim, etc...they were grown men. But Wayne, Turk, and BG were youngins. Them nggas were probably star-struck, at them east coast titans...
youre trying to categorize juvenile as a system player. cmon now. he was BY FAR the top-seller on cash money. if that was an east coast label, you wouldnt be talking that "as a whole" stuff as much.
and lol @ if you think Turk & BG were star-struck over any rappers, especially some east coast dudes. lol. if you knew anything about them, you wouldnt have even typed that up.
the disrespect.
To who?
I knew one guy that had that album when it came out. Nobody really cared about Jay when "RD" dropped. Even The Source review mentioned he sounded like a gang of other rappers already in that lane. Mafioso/crime rap was a dime a dozen in 1996.
That's exactly what happened to BIG.
Fred.
youre talking about magazines. reasonable doubt was a BIG record in the streets up north.
and in terms of paper stats, it was an independent east coast street album with no industry hype leading into it, that still struck gold and had hits.
when volume 1 dropped, he was expected to take the throne but he fumbled. he was able to rebound with volume 2 so easily because the buzz & groundwork was there.
that is NOT what happened with biggie.
there was immense hype surrounding biggie leading up to his debut album, and he was pushed heavy by the majors.
also, when biggie came out, the east coast going thru a changing of the guard. the east was wide open. not only that, but the east was desperate for a solo star to compete with all the dudes out west.
by the time jay dropped reasonable doubt, the east coast was already cluttered. he had to work his way up. look at all the hot new rappers that were coming out with jay and dropping great music. none of them jumped the line.
I Can would be there too. Street Dreams too. Oochie Wally. You Owe Me. One Mic. I can keep goin. He’s a fukkin goofy fam.
you missed what glasses was saying.
he said MOMENTS. youre just listing radio hits.
and yes right. its really just Ether and IIRTW. he left out "hate me now" but that may have been by design, seeing how it was a puffy record during the time when puff's name was dirt out west.
Why? Everyone knows Pac moved around the country. It ain’t no secret. That just means all the GOATS is from NYC. I’m good wit that. If they wanna play that game. They can’t claim D.O.C neither. Who basically taught Snoop how to be a studio rapper. Wack dubbed Ice T and Kurupt as well.
wack aint claiming DOC neither.
he str8 said DOC from texas.
Bruh. Coolio has like 3 hit records. fukk is u talkin bout? Lol. And don’t hit me wit that East coast shyt I fukked with every coast heavy ESPECIALLY West Coast. He dropped 2 gold singles in 96 and a couple more in 97. He dropped plat singles in 94 and 95. By the time Nas dropped IWW Nas Coolio was fizzling out.
i didnt say you were purposely biased
i said its subconscious. when its subconscious, you dont realize it unless other people tell you about yourself.
and its natural. we all have it in us to a degree. myself included.
the fact that youre in here claiming that coolio was a 3-hit wonder says it all.
that dude ran everything from MTV to nickelodeon thru that whole era.